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Here some configuration needs and suggestions that Diane has suggested
(along with responses from myself, Nayan, and Binny).


   1. Loans are given to individuals, groups (informal associations) and
   cooperatives (formal associations). Our client require to differentiate
   these two groups in the system. I have checked in MIFOS database and one
   table named "m_group_level" has different levels. I tried to add
   cooperatives as another level (cooperative) but it does not show on
   interface. Advise on the best way to handle this.

Nayan:  From day one i always favored for having cleaner solution for such
group management requirements, I hate suggesting workarounds :)

             Workarounds are, 1) if you are not using centers then rename
it is "type of groups" and create *two* centers (now it is "type of
groups")              for every branch and name them as  "informal
associations" and  "formal associations" and then create groups under them
                             accordingly, This helps your operational ,
data entry and reporting

   And group levels are meant to decide the hierarchical level of the
group, as initially version we had group can have '*n*' levels of hierarchy.

   Let me know if this does not work for you I suggest another workaround I
have in mind.


   1. Groups have a max no of members. How  can we set it?

Nayan: It is not supported right now, initially we had this ( later this
was stripped out ). I am going to log jira issue for it.

@Binny, this is very small code change let us know if you want include this
in any of the up-coming release.

Otherwise workaround is, have custom report to generate all the groups with
number of client having number of clients in group more than *max *number :)

Binny: Max number of clients in groups - let's add it to next release





   1. How can we set the minimum age of clients? It's 18.

Nayan: This was under development some time back, I will check with Binny
and get back to you.

Binny: Min and Max age of clients - Let's target for March to do what we
planned (date of birth and other key data for clients to be added as
standard data tables as part of release) - will discuss with you some
thoughts I have and if March is possible or not.


   1. The system will be used country wide in 416 sectors, but as of now,
   only 150 sectors give loans. Every year, the number of sectors is increased
   (30 more sectors every year). The client requested to configure all (416)
   existing sectors and make 150 active others 416-150 not active. Does Mifos
   allow to make some offices not active.


Nayan: As of now there is no option to inactivate office. I would suggest
you to suggest your clients to create offices when they need them as it is
easier to manage MIS with offices which are in operational rather create
all the offices.

We are hoping in next data import tool we will have bulk office import
option, that will solve their future problems also.






   1. They require an expected disbursement date to be calculated
   automatically (expected disbursement date = Approved on date + 10 days).
   How can I make it automatic?



Nayan: I need some time before I propose any solution. Based on the
application architecture I am sure we can get easier solution which applies
just for your client. I will come back on this.



Thanks

Nayan Ambali





On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> wrote:

Diane,

These questions are best handled on the mifos-users mailing list. Can I
please forward the thread there as others will be able to add their
opinions and these are good topics to clarify publicly.

I have tried my best to respond accurately but am not certain in most of
the use cases you inquired about.

See my responses inline:




On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Diane <u...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Dear Cable,

I'm in the final stage of configuring Mifos for our client. I have few
issues and I need you advice.

   1. Loans are given to individuals, groups (informal associations) and
   cooperatives (formal associations). Our client require to differentiate
   these two groups in the system. I have checked in MIFOS database and one
   table named "m_group_level" has different levels. I tried to add
   cooperatives as another level (cooperative) but it does not show on
   interface. Advise on the best way to handle this.


I'll have to let one of our functional and product experts. I think we
still have a bit of functionality to add in around support around loans to
this other group level (in your case cooperative)


   1. Groups have a max no of members. How  can we set it?


I'm not sure if this is exposed via the UI. Nayan can this be configured at
the API level?


   1.
   2. How can we set the minimum age of clients? It's 18.


Is this field validation currently available? Binny - will client age/dob
be a component that is part of our expanded set of core basic client
information (will field validation be a part of that?)




   1. The system will be used country wide in 416 sectors, but as of now,
   only 150 sectors give loans. Every year, the number of sectors is increased
   (30 more sectors every year). The client requested to configure all (416)
   existing sectors and make 150 active others 416-150 not active. Does Mifos
   allow to make some offices not active.


Once again, I'd have to defer to one of our product experts. I think
setting should be possible but not is not something that we've currently
exposed at the UI level.


   1. They require an expected disbursement date to be calculated
   automatically (expected disbursement date = Approved on date + 10 days).
   How can I make it automatic?

Diane, to clarify - they simply need an expected disbursement date to be
calculated automatically and not actually have the loan automatically
disbursed, right? Nayan/Binny - is there a script to run to automate this
setting?


Diane RURANGIRWA UWAMAHORO
P.O Box 3365
Kigali
Rwanda


Mobile: +250-788427380


  Le Samedi 22 février 2014 17h53, Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> a écrit :
  Diane,

I think this might be a bug. I was able to reproduce the same behavior on
the demo server as well. So to confirm what Diane observed.

The permissions function correctly if a user doesn't activate the client
during the create client workflow. i.e. they create a client, navigate to
the client and then click "Activate" theyh won't have sufficient
permissions to do so.

But it doesn't work correctly when the user clicks the activate client box
during the create client workflow. They're able to create and activate the
client even without sufficient permissions to activate one.

I also had the maker/checker task for activate client checked too (but I
don't think this has any bearing on the situation at hand).

Subramanya - could you try to repro yourself and confirm this is a bug.

Ed


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Diane <u...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

 Sorry the previous email didn't have a subject.

  Hello!

I'm implementing MIFOS X for a client, the require that  for creating
clients, groups or loans it should be done by the cashier and to activate
them should be done by someone else - the supervisor.

In permissions I gave them appropriate permissions but while creating, if
the cashier ticks the activate check box, the client or group or loan is
activated, even though the cashier does not have permissions to activate.

 When the cashier does not check the check box at the time of creating,
s/he will not be able to activate later - which is normal.

I have checked all permissions but couldn't find how to solve this problem.

Thanks



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