+1

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:53 AM Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the info, Bertrand.
>
> Mailing lists can be just as exclusive as semi-synchronous environments.
> They may not work for your community, but they work for ours, and removing
> them will necessarily disadvantage many contributors.
>
> I'm firmly of the opinion that you can't completely ignore real-time
> communications and expect 100% of everything to occur asynchronously on
> mailing lists. It explicitly disallows certain types of communication that
> you can't have in a mailing list. You have the imposition of the formality
> of a mailing list for newcomers, you have the "being on record" syndrome,
> you have the "must be subscribed to post" problem (not always), and finally
> you are ignoring the fact that people will talk real time anyway - so why
> not make that a venue that you at least have some control/visibility over?
> In fact, my doctoral research was on how semi-synchronous communications
> support distance work and learning better than fully asynchronous ones....
>
> -Joan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bertrand Delacretaz" <[email protected]>
> To: "dev" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], "Myrle Krantz" <[email protected]>,
> [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:04:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Dev vs User Mailing Lists
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:46 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > ...[ASIDE] Realtime communications are not inclusive...
>
> FWIW there was a good discussion about this recently in Apache Arrow:
>
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8433cda04dc9e1d6bb235e4f29bde30d07c3e5d81177af785af177f2@%3Cdev.arrow.apache.org%3E
>
> -Bertrand
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