After 30 plus years I learn every day. The forum should encourage
all communications and questions.
Sure reading is good but asking questions and getting answers is
good. Just remember not all answers are complete or correct. You may
learn from even the incomplete answers.
I am criticized often about my simple approach to networking. But it
works and meets our needs.
Noone should be made to feel stupid or be implied they lack proper
approach.
My apology if implied.
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-------- Original message --------
From: [email protected]
Date:12/21/2014 12:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Mikrotik Users
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
So basically you guys are calling me stupid? Because I can't wrap my
head around how mikrotik routes the IPS? If so it really show how you
guys act like adults on here.
It was an simple question where it should be an simple answer instead of
much of rude adults and answers have
On 2014-12-21 11:04, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Agreed. I just don't know where to send people. I learned the stuff 15
> years ago, so I haven't a need to know how to learn it since then.
>
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> FROM: "Mike Francis - JMF Solutions" <[email protected]>
> TO: "Mikrotik Users" <[email protected]>
> SENT: Sunday, December 21, 2014 10:00:13 AM
> SUBJECT: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>
> When I interview people for technical positions I always give them
> something to read and study. I have them come back in 2-3 days so we
> can have an intelligent conversation about the topic.
>
> I think that applys here as well. If what you think or believe is not
> working, then someone should give examples and something to resd and
> study. Assuming that they read up, when everyone comes back to the
> discussion it can then be intelligent and meaningful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> John Michael Francis II
> JMF Solutions, Inc
> Wavefly Technologies
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>
> On December 21, 2014 8:38:09 AM CST, tim2
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Agreed about basic routing. There is a good mikrotik book that
>> provides routing and Cisco publishes a good book.
>>
>> But those on the list should always communicate even if points may
>> be considered incorrect.
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Mike Hammett
>> Date:12/21/2014 8:32 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Mikrotik Users
>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>
>> A /13 provides 524,286 usable IPs (before further subnetting).
>>
>> I think people in this thread need to find a "Routing for dummies"
>> (no name calling intended) book or video. This is all networking 101
>> stuff that people either have completely wrong or are clueless
>> about.
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "tim2" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Mikrotik Users" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 6:36:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>
>> You have a /13 or a /28 which provides 14 usable ip, s. 1 is for
>> gateway and the other is your primary router. To control your
>> traffic your customer gateway is the IP on your router.
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Scott Reed
>> Date:12/20/2014 3:30 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Mikrotik Users
>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>
>> The one they gave you is critical. The fact that you did not use it
>> is
>> probably an indication of why are are needing help with this. The
>> list
>> is not the place to give a full IP routing tutorial, but you need to
>> use
>> the .240, which also a /28 and has 16 address, 14 of which can be
>> used
>> by devices. The remainder of the 256 block space can be divided and
>> used however you want.
>> So, assuming that your are using the first 16 addresses, you could
>> put 8
>> address somewhere on your network by putting a.b.c.17/29 on a router
>>
>> port. That becomes the gateway address for devices that connect to
>> that
>> port. In OSPF you will tell it to redistribute connected routes and
>> you
>> will put a.b.c.16/29 in the Network section.
>>
>> On 12/20/2014 3:03 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> If you want the actual subnet the upstream provider gave me was
>>> 255.255.255.240 but I put in 255.255.255.0
>>>
>>> Which I have block of /13 which o nly 12 useable ips since the
>> 13^th
>>> one is upstream provider gateway IP.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> *From:*[email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Scott
>> Reed
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:56 PM
>>> *To:* Mikrotik Users
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>>
>>> Routing works by one device knowing the next device to send a
>> packet
>>> to. So the upstream knows that all of you addresses get sent to
>> the
>>> one on your gateway. The provider's devices don't care how the
>> data
>>> gets to the destination, just that it goes to your router. Your
>> OSPF
>>> will tell your headend router how to get the data to the end
>> point.
>>> So, to fully answer your question, you need to answer the one I
>> have
>>> asked you several times. What is the subnet mask our your headend
>>> router connecting to the upstream? Give us that and we can quit
>>> surmising what you might do and give you a how to do it.
>>>
>>> Also, from one of your comments, you can tell OSPF whether or not
>> to
>>> propagate your static routers.
>>>
>>> On 12/20/2014 2:09 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>
>>> @ Scott
>>> Addresses come in pPowers of 2, so you probably have 16 addresses
>>> in the block. So, need to know what subnet mask you use to
>>> connect. If you are using a /29 or /30, the rest can be located
>>> anywhere on the network. Let OSPF do the work. If you are using
>>> the /28 to connect, you will either need to get your provider to
>>> change it or get the rest of the addresses so you can subnet them.
>>
>>>
>>> How many addresses do you want at the "remote" site?
>>>
>>> Let's say you have a block of 16, a /28. You can have a block of
>>> 8, a /29, at the headend and connected to the provider. Then you
>>> can have 8 more somewhere else on the network. As long as you put
>>> the address in OSPF correctly, the 8 addresses from the second
>>> half can be anywhere on your network and OSPF will get them routed
>>
>>>
>>> I don’t know if I can even spit up the block like how your
>> saying
>>> because I only have 1 gateway IP address from the upstream
>>> provider unless there is something I don’t know about because
>> one
>>> mikrotik router (core) router is handling the ip’s then from
>> there
>>> its ospf over wireless ptp link to an other mikrotik router with
>>> totally different internal IP address from router a haves.
>>>
>>> @ Christian
>>>
>>> So if you have a /28 and it was routed to router a, you can route
>>> the whole thing or just subnets to router b, and use them by just
>>> setting a gateway on router b. Or a gateway on rou ter a. Or if it
>>
>>> is ospf you could just assign a single ip to a loopback and do a
>>> 1:1 nat to a private. There is a lot of ways to do this, I'm just
>>> not clear on your setup.
>>>
>>> This is how I got the network currently setup:
>>> modem ----: routerboard a (w/static wan IP’s w/ospf) then the
>> link
>>> is on ether is going for my ptp to other routerboard b (running
>>> ospf also) on ether1 then I want ether 2-4 run to sectors etc.
>>>
>>> So I need to figure out how to route the static wan ip’s over
>> ospf
>>> from routerboard a to b etc..
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> *From:*[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Christian
>>
>>> Palecek
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 1:07 PM
>>> *To:* Mikrotik Users
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Mikr otik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>>
>>> So if you have a /28 and it was routed to router a, you can route
>>> the whole thing or just subnets to router b, and use them by just
>>> setting a gateway on router b. Or a gateway on router a. Or if it
>>> is ospf you could just assign a single ip to a loopback and do a
>>> 1:1 nat to a private. There is a lot of ways to do this, I'm just
>>> not clear on your setup.
>>>
>>> Christian Palecek
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> Cybernet Inc.
>>>
>>> Hamilton, MT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Date:12/20/2014 10:48 AM (GMT-07:00)
>>> To: Mikrotik Users <[email protected]>
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask < br />>
>>> Scott I got block of 13 and I can go all the way of block of 254
>> if I
>>> wanted to.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-12-20 12:21, Scott Reed wrote:
>>>> How many addresses do they give you?
>>>> What is the subnet mask you use on your connection to the
>> upstream?
>>>>
>>>> On 12/20/2014 12:07 PM, [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Well the upstream provider have the static ip's scripted inside
>> the
>>>>> modem. So I don't think they are actually routing the ip's
>>> directly to
>>>>> me.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it looks like I'm going have go bat route setup if that is
>>> correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2014-12-20 10:59, Christian Palecek wrote:
>>>>>> I think you are going to have to use dst-nat as a 1:1 nat,
>> unless
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> actually are routing you ip's, then you would just route them
>>> like
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> would any subnet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian Palecek
>>>>>> Network Administrator
>>>>>> Cybernet Inc.
>>>>>> Hamilton, MT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: T Maylone <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>> Date:12/20/2014 7:33 AM (GMT-07:00)
>>>>>> To: Mikrotik Users <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Couple questions to ask
>>>>>>
>>>>>> example routing through two routers
>>>>>>
>>>>> & gt; assume your public ip is 1.1.1.1
>>>>>> assume your provider routes 1.1.1.1 to your router A ether
>> port 1
>>>>>> assume there is a relationship between router a ether 2
>>> 10.254.0.1/29
>>>>>> [2] and router B ether 1 10.254.0.2
>>>>>> assume there is a relationship between router b ether 2
>>> 10.253.0.1/29
>>>>>> [3] and router c ether 1 10.253.0.2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In router A
>>>>>> IP route 1.1.1.1 10.254.0.2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In router B
>>>>>> IP router 1.1.1.1 10.253.0.2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Tim Reichhart
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am just wondering if I have multiple wan IP's on ether1 is
>>> an way
>>>>>>> to place it onto other ethernet interfaces? Also I am running
>>
>>> ospf
>>>>>>> on my routers so lets say router A is the main core with wan
>> IP’s
>>>>>>> and router B needs an wan IP from router A for an internal IP
>> how
>>>>>>> would I route that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
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