:) LOL! .. it is in the queue for testing ? , sounds better :) 

Regards 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Jeremy Austin" <jhaus...@gmail.com>
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> Cc: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>, "Mikrotik Users"
> <mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 7:33:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP

> Minor correction for Faisal; I haven’t tested Infinity yet. That’s next on my
> bench list after a Juniper MX80.

> I am running i7 CHR on ESXi, and am fairly happy with it, kind of a “poor 
> man’s”
> version of Baltic’s x86 platform.

> I have seen a couple instability issues with CCR1009 and full tables, but that
> could have been a specific RouterOS version; hence I said YMMV. Like Faisal I
> have heard a number of people being happy with it.

> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:06 PM Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
> wrote:

>> Jeremy Austin is correct in everything he has said...

>> Having said that.. I believe the folks who are running CCR w/Full BGP Tables 
>> are
>> not very picky or demanding, plus may very well have a default route also
>> configured, as such my not be seeing the pain...

>> Us on the other hand, running multiple full tables and or double digit 
>> peers...
>> can see this affects of 'slow bgp full table re convergence' as a 'big 
>> problem'

>> Depending on what CPU is on your X86, going to the CCR1009 may or may not be
>> 'upgrade'.

>> We are running multiple i7 X86 routers as Edge Routers...have seen them push 
>> and
>> pull over 5G of traffic without much trouble... along with lots and lots of
>> peers..

>> Next upgrade (currently in process) is to swap them out for i7 / CHR (Vmware)
>> based routers, this is more of a parallel move (desirable for hardware
>> redundancy reasons)...

>> Both Jeremy and myself also have Ubnt Edgerouter Infinity that we are 
>> testing..
>> in my case I have not had much time to test.. so I don't have anything
>> conclusive to share at the moment.

>> :)

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net

>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users" < mikrotik-users@wispa.org >
>>> To: "Jeremy Austin" < jhaus...@gmail.com >
>>> Cc: "Mikrotik Users" < mikrotik-users@wispa.org >
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 6:09:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP

>>> Well it's painful on my x86 machine, but I've never really been a problem.

>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373

>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Jeremy Austin < jhaus...@gmail.com > wrote:

>>>> RAM is a consideration.
>>>> It's convergence time primarily, and route table maintenance, that will be
>>>> considerably more rapid on x86 due to BGP being a single core process.

>>>> I have heard of people happily running two full tables on CCR1016. I would 
>>>> be OK
>>>> with this as long it were one of a pair of edge routers, as secondary, the
>>>> primary being either x86 or bigger iron, depending on bandwidth 
>>>> requirements.

>>>> YMMV. It's fairly easy to determine what your baseline CPU level would be 
>>>> if you
>>>> do a full table peering internally for testing. I see about 40% under 
>>>> profile
>>>> on a CCR1009 with a single full table. (Adds and removes being fairly 
>>>> slow… try
>>>> searching the route table for a single route via the CLI, and you'll see 
>>>> how
>>>> painful this is!)

>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:

>>>>> Is your preference due to stability or speed of peer turn up? I guess I 
>>>>> should
>>>>> have specified - I'm running full tables (two peers).

>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Jeremy Austin < jhaus...@gmail.com > 
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> If you're running multiple full tables, Mikrotik on x86 will have better
>>>>>> performance, typically, than on a CCR. I have run full tables on as 
>>>>>> small as a
>>>>>> CCR1009 with few issues, but prefer x86.
>>>>>> For a few thousand routes, as in an IGP, BGP on CCR is completely fine.

>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users <
>>>>>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org > wrote:

>>>>>>> I remember the CCR had a lot of issues running BGP and would crash. I'm 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> worried about it takes a couple of minutes to build routes when it 
>>>>>>> first boots
>>>>>>> up. Are the issues resolved at this point?

>>>>>>> I'm running an older x86 box for BGP and want to replace the Powercode 
>>>>>>> BMU (x86)
>>>>>>> with a more power efficient unit, possibly a second CCR? Does this 
>>>>>>> sound like a
>>>>>>> good idea at this point or will I have Mikrotik problems? Is there 
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> better than the CCR for these jobs?

>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373

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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jeremy Austin
>>>>>> jhaus...@gmail.com

>>>>>> (907) 895-2311 office
>>>>>> (907) 803-5422 cell

>>>>>> Heritage NetWorks - Whitestone Power & Communications - Vertical 
>>>>>> Broadband, LLC

>>>> --
>>>> Jeremy Austin
>>>> jhaus...@gmail.com

>>>> (907) 895-2311 office
>>>> (907) 803-5422 cell

>>>> Heritage NetWorks - Whitestone Power & Communications - Vertical 
>>>> Broadband, LLC

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