The cost of your vendor seems way to high. Take a look at the product. http://www.netop.com/netop-1229.htm
One time investment and your done. Rich Hatherill Cnywireless ---------------------------------------- From: Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 2:24 PM To: MikroTik List <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> Subject: [Mikrotik] Survey results so far I thought I'd post a message to address some of the expressed concerns regarding the online training. Some posted concerns to the mailing lists and those I have already replied to onlist. Because some of you are not on all the available mailing lists, here is the archive of the survey thread regarding the survey question. You can follow the thread here: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/wisp/2008-September/000216.html As for the results posted to the survey so far, there is (so far) a total of 8 responders. I'll make the results public once I close the survey. Question 3: What concerns would you have regarding an online training venue vs a "live in person" training? **************************************** The need for live question and answer. **************************************** (There were 3 other responses that were similar to this one) The webinar software offers 2 options that will address this. There is a live chat available where students will be able to post questions either to the host (that's me) or to the group. Also, in the webinar software, there is a button called "Raise your hand". This allows the host to enable your ability to address a question, which the whole group would hear. ********************************************************* Communicating with other people in the same industry but a different area, network ********************************************************* My plan at this time is to set up either a forum or mailing list (most likely will be a mailing list) for the class. Before the class starts, every attendee will be added to this list. During the course, it will be used as another resource for Q&A. After the course ends, it will be left running so that members of the class can continue to converse if they desire. ******************** Bandwidth ******************* The meeting should work with as little as 56k connection. The stream will not be a very high BW requirement, but will obviously need to stream for the duration of the class. Class sessions will be between 6 and 8 hours per day of streaming material. ******************************************** Live in person stuff keeps me from sleeping. ******************************************** Not sure I can help with that. Perhaps I can include a morning and afternoon "jog in place" session. :-) Question 5: If the cost of an online training were the same as a live training, which would you attend? ***************************************************************** I think live training offers more value. The ability to interact and ask questions is valuable. The main draw for me for the online training is the possibility of lower cost since there is little to no cost for the venue. ****************************************************************** Actually, the cost to me is almost double for the online training. The primary benefit to the online training for most attendees is no travel and related expenses. ****************** 42. ***************** I wonder if the person answering this question with this answer is the same one who seems to have a sleeping problem? :-) Question 8: Please add any other comments you have regarding an online training. The online training I am considering is a live training event held in the form of a webinar. Audio will be delivered via a telephone and video will be within the webinar software. ****************************************************************** If the costs for the webinar are kept low I would absolutely love attending. I am a startup and self funded so every penny is critical. ****************************************************************** This is, unfortunately, the biggest issue that most smaller startups experience. Perhaps we can keep the cost low enough to make sense for you. It is, obviously, in my own best interest to put this in front of as many people as I can. ************************************************************* I would suggest the ability to record and redistribute. ************************************************************* It's there already. The sessions will be recorded automatically and will be made available. I haven't worked out the details, but I think I will be making the sessions available only to the attendees either for no fee or for a small additional fee. I'm awaiting an answer from the vendor with regard to what my actual cost on this part of the service is. ********************************************************************* Telephone delivered audio seams a little weird. I currently only have a cell phone and a lengthy webinar would seriously eat into my minutes. If it required me to make a long distance call (non-toll free) on a landline, then that could also cost additional. These two 'features' would definitely make me *not* want to participate. ********************************************************************* THe dialin number is toll free. I've looked at and am still considering using VoIP instead of telephone dialin for these classes. The biggest 2 problems being the lack of end to end QOS could cause audio problems for some folks and (even worse) the fact that many PC speaker systems just plain suck. (sorry for those of you using nice speakers...mine are horrid). :-) ********************************************************************* I think the price is way too high for those in developing countries like South Africa but perhaps you'll get a better response from the Americans. Just for interest sake, a 5 day training course here in SA where there are say 15 trainees, it costs the equivalent of $375. This is not one on one though but you have access to the instructor of course. Anyway, nice idea you have. ******************************************************************* This is an unfortunate side-effect of living in a world wide economy. The vendor I'm gonna be using makes it so that my cost is higher than $375 per user. **************************************************************** It has to be low cost to make any sense. Traing mor people at a lower cost rather than a few at top $$. *************************************************************** Class sizes are going to be very limited. Less than 15 in fact. So it will be less people for sure. Costs are higher for online than live, so prices can't move too much. I will be announcing (formally) a class in the very near future. Please voice any concerns you have either here or, if you haven't already answered the survey, do it there. I am listening to your input. Thanks for reading this very long message. -- ******************************************************************** *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/ *Wired or wireless Networks * *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer * ******************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080927/0ac7b2b8/attachment.html
