Seen that happen with marginal RJ45s, crimping etc as well as a marginal POE.

Terri Kelley
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On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote:

> I think there is a bad or should I say flaky batch of ethernet chips floating 
> around awhile back at UBNT mfg at least on the 5.8 and 2.4 units. I don't see 
> it as much on the 5.8 units but believe I see it more prominently on the 2.4 
> units. Although if it is less prominently on the 5.8 units, that would 
> explain a few things.
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
> Date:  Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:01:43 -0500
> 
>> I have a Dell 24 port gig switch at the base and 175' in the air is the
>> RocketM365...works fine.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:52 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> But I have plenty Rockets 150' up with a Dell at the base.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dell at base -> Rocket didn't work
>>>> 
>>>> RB750 50' up -> Rocket worked
>>>> 
>>>> Doesn't seem that complicated...
>>>> 
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:36 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ya, but we have a whole group of professionals on this list. Surely,
>>>>> someone
>>>>> has a theory?
>>>>> My thought is an Ethernet chip incompatibilities.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yep...no clue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:48 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And I know you locked down the port speeds as well as tried all the
>>>>>> common
>>>>>>> ethernet error fixes. So, the question remains: What was/is the
>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, I've used the UBNT PoE's, Pac Wireless PoE's, PoE inserters
>>>> with
>>>>>>> Power
>>>>>>>> Supplies.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Stuart Pierce <
>>> spie...@avolve.net
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Did you use the 24v ps on all of those runs ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> From: Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
>>>>>>>>> Date:  Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:00:06 -0500
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've had 70', 110', 175', and 300'.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Stuart Pierce <
>>>>> spie...@avolve.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> How long was the cable run ?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Original Message
>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <
>>> mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date:  Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:37:22 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue was that when I used a Rocket with a MikroTik
>>>> router
>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> bottom
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the tower, I would see packet loss.  I tried different
>>>>>> switches,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> only one that seemed to work ok was a 24port Dell GigE
>>>> switch.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> 7-10%
>>>>>>>>>>>> packet loss using MT's ping utility set at 100ms and
>>> pinging
>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> ground
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the radio at the top.  I have tried with no surge
>>>>> suppression,
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> 600ss, 333ss, and a no-name brand surge suppressor all with
>>>> the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>> results.  I have replaced the cable from cheap shielded to
>>>>>> Hitachi
>>>>>>>>>>>> flooded/shielded to Belden 1300A, all with the same
>>> results.
>>>>>>>> Shielded
>>>>>>>>>>>> connectors as well.  Other people have reported this issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I tried putting a 750G at the top, and now my issues
>>> have
>>>>>> gone
>>>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason I tried that, was because I was able to bench
>>>> test
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly fine.  Cheap and easy fix for me, but another
>>> point
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> failure
>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Robert Haas <
>>>>>>>>> rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What was the issue initially?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just turned up a new site with a using a Rocket M5 as a
>>>>>>> backhaul,
>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this tower is a canopy 900Mhz AP using timing from a
>>>> lastmile
>>>>>>> gear
>>>>>>>>> CTM.
>>>>>>>>>>> As
>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon as I A) Turn timing on the CTM to the 900AP and B)
>>>> Bond
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> surge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suppressor on the rocket's Ethernet run (ALPU-POE-48), I
>>>>> begin
>>>>>>>>> loosing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> packets between the ground and the rocket.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LMG made the suggestion of changing out the suppressor on
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> rocket
>>>>>>>>>>> link
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one closer to 60v so I am waiting on an APLU-POE-60 to
>>> show
>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>> Hogg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:55 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] UBNT ethernet issues WAS: Router
>>>>>>>>> Recommendation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yea, by putting a 750G up at the top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:41 PM, RickG <
>>>>> rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck, you didnt get those ethernet issues resolved?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Chuck Hogg <
>>>>>>> ch...@shelbybb.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I happen to use RB/750G's on some of my tower
>>> locations
>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (UBNT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethernet issues on cable over 50' long).  I have 3
>>>>> 100+Mbit
>>>>>>>>> Rocket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Backhauls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into 1 RB/750G...then on the bottom I have a 493AH do
>>>> all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> rest
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists
>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> li...@manageisp.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enough traffic to meet the speeds that the APs will
>>>>>> deliver
>>>>>>>>> (40meg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2x ethernet ports).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OSPF routing, dhcp server, 50-100 queues for subs
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> CPEs.
>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firewall rules.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/2010 4:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How much traffic and what jobs?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2010 6:41 PM, "Matt Larsen - Lists"<
>>>>>>>>>>> li...@manageisp.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am getting ready to deploy a couple of Ubiquiti
>>>>>> Rocket
>>>>>>>>>>> M/AirMax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sectors on a tower and need a router
>>>> recommendation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be putting each sector on its own subnet
>>> and
>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a router that will be able to handle the
>>> potential
>>>>>>>> throughput
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access points. However, the router needs to be
>>> able
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tower, with 24volt power. This particular tower
>>> has
>>>>> too
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> FM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signal for long ethernet runs, so the router will
>>>>> have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> box with our fiber switch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My experience with the RB450s indicates that they
>>>>> will
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle the full load. So, would it make more
>>> sense
>>>> to
>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 450G
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or an RB750? I have some pretty tight space
>>>>>> constraints,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something larger would probably be out of the
>>>>> question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would you use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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