That will make things more complicated if you advertise space out of both routers. If one goes down, all inbound traffic will start coming in through the other router, whether you want it or not.

On 3/20/2014 8:07 AM, Ty Featherling wrote:
Yes I have started the process with both upstreams. I do intend to spend
some time on filters as well, thanks.

Mike, the two networks each have 300Mbps feeds to the internet but only
100Mbps between the two networks via wireless backhaul. For now at least I
only want failover for ourselves, some key servers, 2 School Districts, a
hospital, and city/county government.

-Ty


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Casey Mills <wkm...@gmail.com> wrote:

It has been a while since I set one of these up... But when I did this
there wasn't a need to run BGP between the edge routers. The advertised
networks should propagate through OSPF.

I'm sure you have already taken care of this, but make sure your upstream
providers will allow you to advertise your new IP space. If they are a good
upstream provider they should be using some filtering and will need to
specifically allow this IP range from your ASN.

Like I said it has been a while, but go ahead and setup filters going both
ways for all of the internal IP ranges. I had Cox trying to send me some
internal IPs at one time. If we had been using those IPs internally it
would have caused a mess.

Casey


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Mike Hammett <butch-mikro...@ics-il.net
wrote:
That would work, but I'm not sure no service is better than slow service.




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
To: "Mikrotik discussions" <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] BGP guidance

I don't want, because I can't accomodate, failover of A to B and B to A.
What I do have the bandwidth between networks to do is fail over a subset
(VIP customers) of A to B and vice versa. My guess is to advertise a /21
via each and a /24 from each /21 on both for the fail over to be for
those
/24s specifically.

-Ty
On Mar 19, 2014 8:01 PM, "Mike Hammett" <butch-mikro...@ics-il.net>
wrote:
I'm not sure what your plan is with that /24. If you advertise that /20
out both providers, the entire Internet can reach that /20 from either
provider. If either provider fails, your entire address space is
available
on the other. No need to do anything except contact your failed
upstream
to
get the connection repaired. If you want to weight traffic based on
(relative) geography, advertise the /20 out both providers in addition
to
one /21 out provider A and one /21 out provider B. Traffic will prefer
the
/19 until that provider fails.



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----- Original Message -----

From: "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
To: "Mikrotik discussions" <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:51:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] BGP guidance

We have a /20 assignment that I will be using on both sides. I intend
to
have a /24 on each side that will fail over.

-Ty
On Mar 19, 2014 5:19 PM, "Mike Hammett" <butch-mikro...@ics-il.net>
wrote:
Just as an example, if you have a /23 from both providers, announce
that
/23 on both connections. Then, advertise the two /24s comprising the
/23
on
the ISP you want to use it from. I believe BGP will take a longer
prefix
before a prepend. The smallest you can advertise, though, is a /24,
so
if
your blocks are smaller, that won't work.




-----
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

----- Original Message -----

From: "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>
To: "Mikrotik discussions" <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:11:43 PM
Subject: [Mikrotik] BGP guidance

I am ready to begin turning up BGP on both of my edge routers and
start
advertising my new IPv4 assignment. I am want to make sure I
understand
things clearly first.

These were setup as two separate networks, each with their own
upstream.
We
built out between them and got a backhaul between the two so we could
manage the far network from the one we have our office already on. I
turned
up OSPF recently on all routers and the routes for both networks are
shared
between the two edge routers.

Now we have our own IP space and would like to start
advertising/using
it.
That seems easy enough. Turn BGP on between the edge routers and our
upstream providers and advertise some addresses on one and some on
the
other. The real fun begins when we want to have fail-over between the
two.
Initially this will only be for some VIP clients like ISDs and
Hospitals.
In the event of an outage upstream of either network I would like to
make
sure these clients stay up across the backhaul between networks.

I believe the way to accomplish this is just to announce the space
used
by
those clients to both upstream ASes and just prepend the ones that
normally
live on the other network. That way should the upstream go down, the
"farther" path will become active. Beyond that I just need to have
iBGP
running between my two edge routers so those routes are known. Does
this
sound right?
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