----- Original Message -----
From: "Rivian - RS Husada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 3:14 PM
Subject: Fw: Oracle/DB2


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adityo Kristianto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "DB2 Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Software Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ayu A. Bisono"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 8:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Oracle/DB2
>
>
> > DB2ers,
> >
> > Please pass this on to your colleagues as many as possible.. Some good
> > points why DB2 is better that oracle..
> > THanks..
> >
> > best regards,
> > Adityo Kristianto ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > IBM Certified Solution Expert - DB2/Business Intelligence
> > IT (DM/CM/BI) Specialist
> > Software Group - IBM Indonesia
> > Phone : (62-21) 523-8699, Fax : (62-21) 251-2933
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure I agree with the statement about CCA vs. SQL*Net.  We use a
> > tool that users can access and install either client.  Both work well.
> > Early versions of CCA reqired that NT workstation users have local admin
> > rights to install it.  The software handled this by switching to a
> > superuser
> > account and then running the install.  This may have been your problem
but
> > without further details, I really can't say.
> >
> > We converted from Oracle to UDB because of licensing costs.  Oracle
wanted
> > a
> > tremendous amount of money after their initial licensing agreement.  Web
> > access costs were out of this world.  Oracle has since changed their
> > licensing requirements and have placed it in line with UDB.  For
example,
> > you may be able to negotiate a per CPU license instead of per user for
> > Oracle.  This is a big difference. We still have several applications
> > running Oracle.  Our platform preference is IBM.
> >
> > I find it easier to manage UDB than Oracle.  I spend much less time on
> UDB.
> >
> > You really need to look at the locking strategy between Oracle and UDB.
> > There is a difference and can have an impact on how your application
runs.
> > After the conversion, we found that the application was deadlocking
under
> > UDB but not Oracle.  The main reason is because IBM follows the ANSI92
> > standards were Oracle makes some assumptions and follows a different
> > strategy.  I suggest you talk to your sales rep for both products and
> maybe
> > even a tech rep if that's possible.
> >
> > One other advantage of UDB is that it's very easy to take an offline
> backup
> > of one system and create another.  For example, I want to create a
> > development database from production.  The redirected restore option is
> > very
> > easy to set up.  It's more time consuming to do this with Oracle.
> >
> > Backups and restores are much faster under UDB.  We have a 7gig database
> > under UDB that backs up in 8 minutes.  The same size database under
Oracle
> > would take over an hour.  Oracle's concept of a hotbackup is to copy
files
> > from a source location to a backup location outside of the Oracle
> database.
> > UDB is done through the database itself.  Cold backups in Oracle require
> > the
> > system be shutdown.  Again, UDB is done through the database and no
> > shutdown.  Much easier, much, much faster.
> >
> > Both databases are very scalable and run on many different platforms.
> >
> > Peter J. Krawetzky, DBA
> > IBM Certified Solutions Expert
> > DB2 UDB V7.1 Database Administration For Unix, Windows and OS/2
> >
> >
> >
>


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