I know, Molly, as Allan would term it, this is the "essence" of Christian belief.
What got me really mad yesterday was reading this text snippet to be used as "proof" for understanding autopoiesis: »Any token may be taken, therefore, to be an instruction for the operation of an intention, and may itself be given a name ›cross‹ to indicate what the intention is.« George Spencer Brown: Laws of Form, New York 1979, S. 6. 2013/11/12 Molly <[email protected]> > Contrary to your belief, I've been taught that bearing (by experience) > the cross is no longer necessary. The cross between individual and > collective just is. It is not for me to bear. > > > On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:27:06 AM UTC-5, Gabby wrote: > >> I know you have been taught to bear the cross of diachronic truth in >> syntagmatic relations, Molly. Allan prefers souls to spirits, I think we >> should accept his approach. >> >> >> >> Am 11.11.2013 um 12:04 schrieb Molly <[email protected]>: >> >> "there's a blaze of light in every word, it doesn't matter which you >> heard, the holy or the broken hallelujah..." - Leonard Cohen >> >> Some would agree with Leonard and say that the Logos is the spirit of the >> word. IMHO there is something that moves the words within us, beyond >> connotation and denotation through meaning into the connection that the >> words bring. Shakespeare is the prime example for me. He strikes such a >> chord throughout the centuries that most of our cliches and colloquialisms >> in many languages are quotes from his work. The connection his words give >> us to life itself is timeless. >> >> On Monday, November 11, 2013 4:48:54 AM UTC-5, Gabby wrote: >>> >>> Let's say the language corpus here was seen as a countable number of >>> words which were put here with a meaningful intention. Allan would want to >>> connect with the soul of the words, which is where I think his mistake >>> lies. >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 11.11.2013 um 04:03 schrieb Konara Abeyrathne <[email protected]>: >>> >>> hello If you cut a ody of a human in to tiny pieces, can you see the >>> so callled SOUL? sure No. how can it control our body? pl clear this for >>> me? >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have been trying to figure out how to explain God for years now.. >>>> you get weird words like supreme being, they are not wrong but,,,, >>>> it separates God from his creation. for me that is a problem, well not >>>> just a problem but a major stumbling block.. My personal experience with >>>> an interaction of God is that it is not a feeling separation but one of >>>> within and without at the same moment. it is an awesome experience to say >>>> the least. Every time an interaction of this type has occurred it leaves >>>> the same feelings within me. >>>> >>>> As for me I have no need to prove the existence of God because I know >>>> he is real not a mythological being.. and that makes a big difference. >>>> Now whether people believe me or not does not matter,, I know God is >>>> real. All I can do is share my experience how people respond is their >>>> problem, not mine. >>>> >>>> My problem is how to you explain the being of God both simply and >>>> clearly.. This topic has shown me a way to explain part of the problem for >>>> which I am very grateful.. I like open discussions as it allows me to >>>> expand on ideas.. and groups with input allow me to explore different >>>> ideas.. Thank you everyone. >>>> >>>> Matrix -- Soul rules the body >>>> ) -- Do No Harm >>>> ( >>>> [_D Allan H >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 11:02 PM >>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: The whole world seen as the Blue Planet >>>> >>>> This is interesting, Gabby. I think our self image is integral to how >>>> we experience the world and our very being. That distortion you reference >>>> may even be "sin" as interpreted by the Christian mystics to mean >>>> separation from God, or in Alan''s terms, the essence of everything, our >>>> collectivism. How often does our self image match the image we have of our >>>> world and all that is in it? >>>> >>>> On Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:23:24 PM UTC-5, Gabby wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If we are the people, then what do we look like so we know who we >>>>> are? Experiencing the 3rd person view, whether it be singular or plural, >>>>> is >>>>> a tempting challenge in that respect. They say, the image of our blue >>>>> planet, the photo that shows what we really look like, changed our view of >>>>> ourselves. Are they sure? It has always impressed me so much more to look >>>>> at the sky and to think how antish or houndish my little me must seem from >>>>> there. Or how easily calculable when pondering the interregularity of >>>>> the sun-moon-stars appearances staged within the grand scheme of things. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In my mind's eye the image of a round blue eye representing "Minds >>>>> Eye" is a primitive visual reduction to a view deeply deformed by imperial >>>>> power players. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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