Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:50:27 +0200 From: Thorsten Johannvorderbrueggen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sparc Urani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Theo gave an interview to Forbes Mag. about Linux References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello list, i have to comment this discussion. 1). The world is not black nor white. The world is colorful! 2). I'm a windows hater and a unix lover Sparc Urani wrote: >based on my experience, Linux is not a good start for the beginners. >for tough systems/network admins its bad. learning unix shall always >start with OpenBSD as they can see the difference when try using Linux >as their alternative OS. > > 3). Linux --> Linux is only the kernel and it's build tools. I think you mean a linux-distri. Ok, the most of them a really bad, but 4). have you ever used slackware? With slackware you have the total control of your system. It's cool (ok it's not so cool as OBSD)! >that was a very nice interview. Theo might encourage some other Linux >guys to start spending with OpenBSD for life ;-). > >Sparc >Computer Security Professional (CSP) has no reason to lie... to >cheat... to steal... nor tolerate among those who do. > >On 6/18/05, Richard Welty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:23:51 +0200 "J. Lievisse Adriaanse" >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Not everybody there is happy about Theo's words...oh well, what gives ;-) >>> >>> 5). Theo says what he thinks, and thats really good! I like straightforward people! Theo says in the interview, what HE is thinking about linux and Co. In some case a think he's right. >>well, on the one hand, i largely agree with Theo, but on the other hand, >>Dan Lyons of Forbes has been on an anti-open source kick for some time. >> >>me, i'd be very wary of becoming a tool in someone else's agenda. >> >> 6). Your're right (in my opinion). The main problem are companies like MS and not Linux, OBSD or so!!!!! We shouln't start a religious war (that's one reason, why i don't "like" Stall....)!!!!!! >>richard >>-- >>Richard Welty >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Averill Park Networking >> Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security >> "Well, if you're not going to expect unexpected flames, >> what's the point of going anywhere?" -- Truckle the Uncivil >> >> > > > > 7). If you want to learn kernel-developing, you have to write code. If you write code for the linux kernel, you have a good chance o see YOUR code in the kernel tree. If you have the time, you can get a maintainer! Is it that simple with OBSD? I don't think so! But to become a kernel-developer, you have to write "real" code! I in opinion it's easier to become a linux-kernel-developer than to become a OBSD-kernel-developer! --> That's the reason, why linux code is not as good a OBSD-code! 8). In some cases you have to use linux: I have a Benq-Joybook-8000 laptop. It's a laptop, and a laptop is mobile. So i need the battery state. On Slackware, no problem.OBSD only supports apm, no apci. Apm won't work on OBSD (apm won't work on linux too) with my laptop. (Why i use a Benq and not a IBM? Because i don't like the black boring .....). To use my laptop as a laptop i need apci. At the moment i haven't got the knowlegde to write an apci implemtation for OBSD --> so i have to use slackware on it. 9). I think, that we (the people, who use OBSD) shouldn't flame linux user. Only the real developer (Theo, ..) could do so!!!!!! 10). OpenBSD is a really good OS!!!!!! So i trie to migrate every maschine from Linux to OBSD (like i did before, when i migrate from MS to Linux. Since 2001 i have not MS - Maschine). I hope you're not to angre with me! But i have to say this! Bye Thorsten
