>> sorry for being off-topic, i am able to rent a pair of twist line (a
>> circuit) between my home and and friends one. I wonder if there exist
>> and ethernet extender device that could connect an ethernet cable to a
>> phone line. It would do no special work, just a raw connection between
>> 2 types of layer, i.e, take "bits" from one end and put it into the
>> another and vice-versa.
>>
>If you truly can get such a service (most RBOCs stopped selling 'dry pair'
>or 'alarm circuits' in the 80s), get TWO pair. There are a number of
>companies selling 'Ethernet over Twisted Pair' converters.
>
>One problem, however, is that the 100M distance limitation could make such
>a connectio pretty impractical, even IF the line conditioning permitted
>the connection.
>
>> Does that exists ?
>>
>If you're fairly close, however, WiFi with high gain antennas might be a
>much better solution.
>

Although I am in Calgary, I have a hard time believing you can't get an 
unpowered, unloaded circuit from one of the American incumbents.  How is Chubb 
supposed to monitor your business' alarm if this product is not available?

What I can see is the RBOCs trying to upsell you to one of their managed 
services.  If the RBOCs didn't make dry copper available, you wouldn't have 
many competitve DSL service providers state-side...not everyone is going to 
wholesale the RBOCs' DSL and then off-load onto a data trunk.

The solution here is a pair of Efficient Networks/Flowpoint SDSL modems, back 
to back.  These will do 1.5M to 2Mbit of bridged Ethernet at 5000 cable-feet.  
And a pair will cost you under US$100 with shipping on Ebay.  Heck, there's a 
guy selling 10 of them with a Buy Now! of US$280.

--J

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