Hi,

I don't get some DELL servers but I have one server with an Adaptec 5400s
SCSI Raid Adapter.

Two years ago, I first began by installing Linux 2.4.x on this machine and
got the worst problems of my Unix life. I could just install one Linux
distribution ( Fedora, Mandrake, ... ) and after two minutes delay, I always
had system crash. After a few reboots my filesystem was completely
corrupted. So I decided to solve this problem and had long (very long )
discussions with the aac module driver developers and mainly with Alan Cox
but the debugging was painfull. I tried many kernel snapshots without any
stable solution.

So, after 4 months, I decided to test FreeBSD 4.x because I urgently had to
setup a website architecture and never got problem with it.

So I can confirm that the FreeBSD aac driver implementation is the most
stable until now.

Regards
Vincent.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Jason Crawford
Sent: mardi 20 septembre 2005 18:58
To: John Brahy
Cc: Jan Johansson; Ryan Rothert; misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 2650


On 9/20/05, John Brahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got two poweredge 2650's w/ PERC 3/di raid cards and I've tried
OpenBSD
> 3.7, 3.6 and 3.5. I've found that the aac in 3.7 is completely unstable,
the
> aac in 3.6 would have problems after an hour or so of heavy use. BUT, 3.5
> seems to be stable but now I'm stuck on a version of an os that is about
to
> become unsupported.

aac support in 3.8 seems to be much better than 3.7 in my experience,
however I still suggest better hardware if possible.

>
> I think the only long term solution is to change hardware. I have been
> considering Sun's trade in offer. I haven't found it on Sun's site but it
is
> mentioned here (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26143)
> I have a friend that's a Sun dealer www.acsacs.com and they said they
honor
> it. I don't believe they sell online. Does anyone know if OpenBSD likes
this
> hardware?
>
> It's really Adaptec's fault. Those fuckers won't give up the source so the
> OpenBSD developers can't provide a good driver for their hardware. My
> company will not purchase any more servers from Dell as long as they
> continue to use Adaptec cards.
>

First off, we never asked for "source" from adaptec, we were only
asking for documentation to make the driver more stable, and write
management utilities. However they only provide documentation if you
sign an NDA, which is unacceptable for any free software. Second, all
the PERC4 cards Dell uses are no longer Adaptec, but LSI Logic (unless
they've changed again reciently), which is fully supported in OpenBSD,
including completely open management utilities.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Jan Johansson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:14 AM
> To: Ryan Rothert
> Cc: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 2650
>
> Ryan Rothert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 3.6 will install on it. I believe the aac driver still exists
> > but is disabled by default. You could install 3.6, recompile
> > the kernel with aac support enabled then upgrade.
>
> This is a bad advice.
>
> The aac driver was disabled because it was broken and could not
> be fixed because there was no documentation.
>
> Using aac is like playing Russian Roulette with your data.

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