> More northern than the North Pole :: Earlier in time than the > beginning of time itself
We can always measure north more accurately by whatever parameters we define. If there's a beginning to time then what started it or what made what started time. What made what made dark matter. The paradox is never ending and in my mind means there must be an ultimate creator. Of course, what made God(s) and what made heavenly light matter. But lets not dwell on that untill we get there ;-)
