02.11.2011 16:25, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff P?P8QP5Q:
On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 06:49 -0500, Amit Kulkarni wrote:
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Vadim Zhukov<persg...@gmail.com> wrote:
My crazy idea is to port Trinity (those guys migrate to using Qt4 and
CMake, which is cool, and to UDev, which is not) and make it replace
KDE 3 (which is dead upstream anyway). After this migration to KDE 4
will be seamless (and those who want "KDE 3 enchanced" could have it
too :) ).
It seems to me that they deliberately changed the API (renamed every lib
function for K* to T*) not to interfere with KDE4. If I get it right,
that effectively means that neither KDE3 nor KDE4 apps can't be linked
with Trinity libs. So, Trinity does not affect migration to KDE4.
The point is that we'll be able to run KDE 3 (okay, Trinity) and KDE 4
apps at the same time. And not fiddle in terminal with updating all the
configs at the same time. Don't care about libraries: you run apps, not
libs. :)
BTW, I don't really get the idea of Trinity. KDE4 feature-wise is a
superset of KDE3, and as such it can be tuned to mimic KDE3 fairly
closely.
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That said, KDE4 is far ahead of where KDE3 is. Many former KDE3 apps
advanced, and this gap will only get larger as time goes. KDE3 is fairly
big, so porting it to Qt4 will take long.
Personally I don't care about their goals. They may want ever to
dominate over the world, but that's out of the question. :) The question
is "could this project help to migrate from KDE 3 to KDE 4".
We have Qt4 in ports, so I don't see any problems _for_us_ here. Qt3?
Okay. Qt4? Fine.
Main problem I see currently is the process of moving Trinity to using
UDev and NetworkManager. We already have all other bits they want, don't we?
That means that Trinity isn't going to have a sufficient user base, and
as far as it has fairly limited development resources, I doubt that it
will ever get to major release.
They just did the third release, so the project is at least alive.
> I believe it will halt even before the complete OpenBSD port will be
finished.
Well, many people say that "OpenBSD will die soon" too. :) And keep
saying it for many years...
Current KDE 4 effort took about 1,5 months of work ATM. Yes, a lot of
work was done before by Marc Espie, Remi Pointel, FreeBSD and NetBSD KDE
teams and others I'm not aware of. But until there are any real
stoppers, porting Trinity looks real enough.
--
WBR, Vadim Zhukov
