Hi,
Thanks for your reply. I wasn't careful about this section.
If i understand i must add defer option to my WAN iface (or i'm wrong i
must add it to my vlan995 iface ?) ?

I will test it this morning, and i return back to misc :)
--
Best regards,
Loïc BLOT,
UNIX systems, security and network expert
http://www.unix-experience.fr


Le mercredi 03 juillet 2013 à 02:02 +0200, mxb a écrit :
> pfsync(4) explains this:
>
> "… The pfsync interface will attempt to collapse multiple state updates
into
>      a single packet where possible.  The maximum number of times a single
>      state can be updated before a pfsync packet will be sent out is
>      controlled by the maxupd parameter
> …"
>
>
> and
>
> "… Where more than one firewall might actively handle packets, e.g. with
>      certain ospfd(8), bgpd(8) or carp(4) configurations, it is beneficial
to
>      defer transmission of the initial packet of a connection.  The pfsync
>      state insert message is sent immediately; the packet is queued until
>      either this message is acknowledged by another system, or a timeout
has
>      expired.  This behaviour is enabled with the defer parameter to
>      ifconfig(8).
> …"
>
>
> Eg. "defer: on", yours is "off".
>
> //mxb
>
>
> On 2 jul 2013, at 21:54, Loïc BLOT <loic.b...@unix-experience.fr> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> > I have a strange issue (or i haven't read pfsync correctly but i don't
> > think this is the problem :D)
> >
> > I'm using 2 OpenBSD as BGP+OSPF routers at the border of one site.
> >
> > Those BGP routers are secure with strong PF in stateful mode, and the
> > stateful is working very well on each router. Because of my full mesh
> > BGP configuration, the outgoing layer 7 sessions can leave my network by
> > one router and responses can income by the other.
> >
> > To resolve this issue, i have created a dedidated VLAN for the pfsync
> > traffic and attached pfsync to this VLAN.
> >
> > Here is a sample output of ifconfig on my first router:
> >
> > vlan995: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> >        lladdr a0:36:9f:10:4a:a6
> >        priority: 0
> >        vlan: 995 parent interface: trunk1
> >        groups: vlan
> >        status: active
> >        inet6 fe80::a236:9fff:fe10:4aa6%vlan995 prefixlen 64 scopeid
> > 0x10
> >        inet 10.117.1.129 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 10.117.1.135
> > pfsync0: flags=41<UP,RUNNING> mtu 1500
> >        priority: 0
> >        pfsync: syncdev: vlan995 maxupd: 255 defer: off
> >        groups: carp pfsync
> >
> > And here on my second router:
> >
> > vlan995: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> >        lladdr a0:36:9f:17:e2:1e
> >        priority: 0
> >        vlan: 995 parent interface: trunk1
> >        groups: vlan
> >        status: active
> >        inet6 fe80::a236:9fff:fe17:e21e%vlan995 prefixlen 64 scopeid
> > 0x10
> >        inet 10.117.1.130 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 10.117.1.135
> > pfsync0: flags=41<UP,RUNNING> mtu 1500
> >        priority: 0
> >        pfsync: syncdev: vlan995 maxupd: 255 defer: off
> >        groups: carp pfsync
> >
> > As you see in next tcpdump capture, there is some discussions between
> > the two routers:
> >
> > # tcpdump -nni vlan995
> > tcpdump: listening on vlan995, link-type EN10MB
> > tcpdump: WARNING: compensating for unaligned libpcap packets
> > 23:41:13.699617 10.117.1.130: PFSYNCv6 len 108
> >    act UPD ST COMP count 1
> >    ...
> > (DF) [tos 0x10]
> > 23:41:14.158500 10.117.1.129: PFSYNCv6 len 108
> >    act UPD ST COMP count 1
> >    ...
> > (DF) [tos 0x10]
> > 23:41:14.941396 SSTP STP config root=83e3.0:a:b8:7b:27:80 rootcost=3
> > bridge=c3e3.0:17:e:2e:f:80 port=142 ifcost=130 age=1/0 max=20/0
> > hello=2/0 fwdelay=15/0 pvid=995
> > 23:41:14.949617 10.117.1.130: PFSYNCv6 len 108
> >    act UPD ST COMP count 1
> >    ...
> > (DF) [tos 0x10]
> > 23:41:15.237655 10.117.1.129: PFSYNCv6 len 640
> >    act UPD ST COMP count 1
> >    ...
> > (DF) [tos 0x10]
> > 23:41:15.949617 10.117.1.130: PFSYNCv6 len 124
> >    act UPD ST COMP count 1
> >    ...
> > (DF) [tos 0x10]
> > 23:41:16.255230 10.117.1.129: PFSYNCv6 len 36
> >    act DEL ST COMP count 1
> >        id: 51d16a3500006c33 creatorid: a10bbd21
> > (DF) [tos 0x10]
> > 23:41:16.946454 SSTP STP config root=83e3.0:a:b8:7b:27:80 rootcost=3
> > bridge=c3e3.0:17:e:2e:f:80 port=142 ifcost=130 age=1/0 max=20/0
> > hello=2/0 fwdelay=15/0 pvid=995
> > 23:41:16.949619 10.117.1.130: PFSYNCv6 len 1116
> >    act UPD ST COMP count 13
> >    ...
> > (DF) [tos 0x10]
> >
> >
> > The problem is simple, when i initiate a stateful connection from one
> > server, the return (by second router) is blocked by PF (i see the return
> > with pflog0)
> >
> > To be precise here is an example (and tested path):
> >
> > OBSD NTP -> OBSD router 1 -> WAN...ftp.fr.openbsd.org...WAN -> OBSD
> > router 2 || blocked
> >
> > PF allow in/out routing traffic from this server but incoming from WAN
> > is blocked by default
> >
> > Can you confirm to me that pfsync may add a state for outgoing tcp
> > connection in the second router when the first router add it ?
> > Have you got any idea on this issue ?
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Loïc BLOT,
> > UNIX systems, security and network expert
> > http://www.unix-experience.fr
> >
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