I doubt if anyone on this list will believe that it was actually you who posted 
it in its current form.

Besides, thanks for passing it along - it is an excellent light reading over a 
weekend - tickled me to death!

-ag

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On Aug 10, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> While searching for 'OpenBSD "bad package" CONTENTS' I somehow came
> across this and got sucked in when I shouldn't have.
> 
> OpenBSD: Not Free Not Fuctional and Definetly Not Secure | BSD, the
> truth
> 
> http://aboutthebsds{dot}wordpress{dot}com
> 
> Well I had a go at educating the author of this thread but I guess
> without a response he modified my comments into utter lies and left them
> under my name. I guess the old adage that you can help the stupid but
> not the willfully ignorant is true.
> 
> I knew he was an arch linux user and so I was expecting comment
> deletion in the case of moderator disagreement to the arguments (similar
> to the Arch Linux mailing lists where a moderators task being meant to
> have nothing to do with taking sides is ignored and is even more
> annoying when what you said was proven right by upstream a little
> later). Incidentally I expect similar to Lennart's pages as they are
> comment free.
> 
> Sorry to be wasting your time or even mentioning this useless blog but
> I just wanted to put the record straight and to save time for anyone
> who stumbles across it and hope may now also see this in a Google
> search where it appears.
> 
> Bear in mind these are counter points to his blog and not things I want
> to bring up.
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________
> 
> I posted
> _____________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> It is extremely one sided!
> 
> How about Linux allowing modules like Nvidia and far worse like Sony to
> be easily installed under the safe and free flag of their repo.
> 
> I can tell you OpenBSD would not allow this and allow no binary blobs
> and with modules disabled by default, unlike FreeBSD and Linux allowing
> and even including by default binary blobs that does unknown things
> posibly with good intentions but full of exploits. You can take BSD and
> do freely whatever evil you want but you cannot abuse the trust users
> have in OpenBSD devs by flying your dodgy code in under their flag and
> so users radars.
> 
> This is because BSD only precludes plagiarism and so using OpenBSD as a
> selling point when it may have been modified. There are many products
> using OpenBSD but this cannot be revealed directly.
> 
> Linux try's but can't afford to sue Nvidia giving users a false sense
> of security but also well running games (I shall admit as I do give
> balance to my thoughts), but now they (Intel/AMD) are going open source
> which is extra great for the CAREful OpenBSD.
> 
> And yes this CARE means it cannot go as quick as Linux thankfully as
> Torvalds can no longer check before OKaying potentially evil or
> insecure code (admitted himself).
> _____________________________________________________________________
> 
> The blog author posted anonymously after 'archlike moderation'
> _____________________________________________________________________
> 
> BSD allows modules like Nvidia and far worse like Sony to be easily
> installed under the safe and free flag of their repo.
> 
> I can tell you OpenBSD freely allows this including non-free firmware
> and with modules enabled by default, like FreeBSD allowing and even
> including by default binary blobs that does unknown things posibly with
> good intentions but full of exploits. You can take BSD and do freely
> whatever evil you want including abuse the mindless trust users have in
> OpenBSD devs by flying dodgy code in under their flag and so users
> radars.
> 
> Look at what Richard Stallman said about them.
> 
> BSD encourages plagiarism and so using OpenBSD as a selling point when
> it may have been turning into proprietary software. There are many
> proprietary products using OpenBSD but this cannot be revealed directly
> because the code this now thiers.
> 
> Linux impedes Nvidia from giving users a false sense of security but
> also well running games (I shall admit as I do give balance to my
> thoughts), but now they (Intel/AMD) are going open source which is
> extra great for the CAREful Linux. BSD devs don't care for open source
> drivers (Intel/AMD). So they continue to suck proprietary cocks.
> 
> Also, Linux thankfully has Torvalds to check before for any potential
> evil code before it is included in the source tree.
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________
> 
> I posted about his systemd page.
> ____________________________________________________________________
> 
> Bane of BSD, it's hardly even mentioned on the OpenBSD list atleast,
> maybe two very short threads stemming from things like Gnome. Even
> Redhat devs have said it has very insignificant impact.
> 
> Anything that takes s much time on Linux lists is almost guarnteed to
> have flaws.
> 
> I wouldn't fancy OpenBSDs record of two holes in over a decade not
> incrementing if they ported systemd but of course they correctly
> wouldn't. There's been more holes in PAM than OpenBSD and the Linux
> kernel would be at hundreds of hole in less than a decade but of course
> a bugs a bug right. Ignorance is bliss and an easy life of course,
> hence Windows dominance.
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> The blog author posted anonymously after 'archlike moderation'
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> Bane of BSD, it's hardly even mentioned on the OpenBSD list atleast,
> maybe two very short threads stemming from things like Gnome. Even
> Redhat devs have said it has very insignificant impact.
> 
> Anything that takes s much time on BSD lists is almost guarnteed to
> have flaws.
> 
> I never fancy OpenBSDs record of two holes in over a decade not
> incrementing because they never ported systemd. There's been more
> holes in OpenBSD than PAM and the BSD kernel would be at hundreds of
> hole in less than a decade but of course a bugs a bug right. Ignorance
> is bliss and an easy life of course, hence Linux dominance.
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> I also posted but have not bothered to check what he did with it,
> ______________________________________________________________________
> 
> PF and Carp are ace with PF used by Apple and Blackberry and is
> interrupt driven and won't include any DPI because they know better.
> How about OpenBSD prevents GNU kernels from running BSD code like
> OpenSSH and watch the exploits insue in their copy like happens with
> PAM et al.
> 
> If Linux tried to put ? holes in just their kernel in a heck of a long
> time on kernel.org it would be laughable.
> 
> Truth hurts doesn't it and systemd is crap and actually hardly
> mentioned on BSD lists.
> 
> Why do you care if KMS isn't GNU, you need to reflect on the pointless
> hurt you would cause. KMS helps prevetn exploits via the GPU but Linux
> likely doesn't care about that as they still run Xorg as root despite
> OpenBSD patches being FREE to be ported.
> _______________________________________________________________________
> 
> -- 
> _______________________________________________________________________
> 
> 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
> together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
> universal interface'
> 
> (Doug McIlroy)
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