Marinos Yannikos, 23 Dec 2014 12:20:
> Practical implications: a Supermicro A1SAi based server sitting on my
> desk gets quite warm at 61°C when idle and supposedly clocked down to
> half the nominal CPU frequency at hw.setperf=0 (Linux: 43°C).

this is a difficult issue, because as far as i know,
there are no tools to query per cpu
setperf/temperature.


i was also thinking about sending an email, as i think
i see something vagualy similar on my thinkpad notebook,
but how to collect data?


in a 18C room (i like cold), i start up the notebook (not resume),
that was off all night, and it goes to 46C in a couple of minutes.
fair enough, the other notebooks in the room (3) have very
similar/same temperatures (windows and linux).

for the sake of this "scientific" experiment, i don't start
anything heavy (browser, etc), just a terminal.  every 6 minutes
or so, the temperature goes up 1C, and in 40 minutes, i am
at 53C and it will go up to 56C by the time i finish this email.

now, 50~58C are common temperatures for common usage on
a common notebook.  but this room is 18C, and the
notebook is basically idle. (i will also boot linux on
it later to compare)

it seems to me, that at 18C, an idle CPU at 1000MHz
should be around 45~48C.


resume is a whole other thing.  in a 18C room, after
a whole night of being off, temperature goes into the
high 60s and early 70C right away and it is clear
it should be at least 20 less.  but i was trying to
get more data on this for a bug report.

-f


$ sysctl hw
hw.machine=i386
hw.model=Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU L2400 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class)
hw.ncpu=2
hw.byteorder=1234
hw.pagesize=4096
hw.disknames=sd0:2a6c0cb2b714a4f0,sd1:9b35dfa2af509654
hw.diskcount=2
hw.sensors.acpitz0.temp0=52.00 degC (zone temperature)
hw.sensors.acpitz1.temp0=53.00 degC (zone temperature)
hw.sensors.acpibtn0.indicator0=On (lid open)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.volt0=14.40 VDC (voltage)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.volt1=16.65 VDC (current voltage)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.power0=0.00 W (rate)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour0=23.71 Wh (last full capacity)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour1=1.19 Wh (warning capacity)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour2=0.20 Wh (low capacity)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3=23.71 Wh (remaining capacity), OK
hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour4=28.80 Wh (design capacity)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.raw0=0 (battery full), OK
hw.sensors.acpiac0.indicator0=On (power supply)
hw.sensors.acpithinkpad0.temp0=52.00 degC
hw.sensors.acpithinkpad0.temp1=42.00 degC
hw.sensors.acpithinkpad0.temp3=49.00 degC
hw.sensors.acpithinkpad0.temp4=18.00 degC
hw.sensors.acpithinkpad0.temp6=18.00 degC
hw.sensors.acpithinkpad0.fan0=3011 RPM
hw.sensors.acpidock0.indicator0=Off (not docked), UNKNOWN
hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0=53.00 degC
hw.sensors.aps0.temp0=42.00 degC
hw.sensors.aps0.temp1=42.00 degC
hw.sensors.aps0.indicator0=On (Keyboard Active)
hw.sensors.aps0.indicator1=Off (Mouse Active)
hw.sensors.aps0.indicator2=On (Lid Open)
hw.sensors.aps0.raw0=466 (X_ACCEL)
hw.sensors.aps0.raw1=511 (Y_ACCEL)
hw.sensors.aps0.raw2=466 (X_VAR)
hw.sensors.aps0.raw3=511 (Y_VAR)
hw.sensors.softraid0.drive0=online (sd1), OK
hw.cpuspeed=1000
hw.setperf=0
hw.vendor=LENOVO
hw.product=1705CTO
hw.version=ThinkPad X60s
hw.serialno=LVB7000
hw.uuid=b3bcd5e0-08e3-11dc-9e40-c19b215ac37f
hw.physmem=2137341952
hw.usermem=2111606784
hw.ncpufound=2
hw.allowpowerdown=1
hw.perfpolicy=auto


OpenBSD 5.6-current (GENERIC.MP) #630: Thu Dec 18 01:03:03 MST 2014
    dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU L2400 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 
GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,NXE,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR,PDCM,PERF
real mem  = 2137341952 (2038MB)
avail mem = 2090070016 (1993MB)
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 03/31/11, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd690, SMBIOS 
rev. 2.4 @ 0xe0010 (67 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version "7BETD8WW (2.19 )" date 03/31/2011
bios0: LENOVO 1705CTO
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT TCPA APIC MCFG HPET SLIC BOOT SSDT SSDT SSDT 
SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) DURT(S3) EXP0(S4) EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) 
EXP3(S4) PCI1(S4) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB7(S3) HDEF(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.2.2.2, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU L2400 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 
GHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,NXE,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR,PDCM,PERF
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 2, remapped to apid 1
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf0000000, bus 0-63
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (AGP_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 12 (EXP3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 21 (PCI1)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS, resource for USB0, USB2, USB7
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 127 degC
acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature is 97 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "42T4629" serial   327 type LION oem "SANYO"
acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpibat2 at acpi0: BAT2 not present
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpithinkpad0 at acpi0
acpidock0 at acpi0: GDCK not docked (0)
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xea00! 0xcf000/0x1000 0xd0000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 
0xe0000/0x10000!
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1663 MHz: speeds: 1667, 1333, 1000 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945GM Host" rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd0000000, size 0x10000000
inteldrm0 at vga1
drm0 at inteldrm0
inteldrm0: 1024x768
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (std, vt100 emulation)
"Intel 82945GM Video" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x02: msi
azalia0: codecs: Analog Devices AD1981HD, 0x0000/0x0000, using Analog Devices 
AD1981HD
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 1 int 20
pci1 at ppb0 bus 2
em0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82573L" rev 0x00: msi, address 
00:16:d3:b6:19:57
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 1 int 21
pci2 at ppb1 bus 3
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 1 int 22
pci3 at ppb2 bus 4
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 1 int 23
pci4 at ppb3 bus 12
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 1 int 16
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 1 int 17
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 1 int 18
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 1 int 19
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 1 int 19
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb4 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI" rev 0xe2
pci5 at ppb4 bus 21
cbb0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 "Ricoh 5C476 CardBus" rev 0xb4: apic 1 int 16
"Ricoh 5C552 Firewire" rev 0x09 at pci5 dev 0 function 1 not configured
sdhc0 at pci5 dev 0 function 2 "Ricoh 5C822 SD/MMC" rev 0x18: apic 1 int 18
sdmmc0 at sdhc0
cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0
cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 22 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0
pcmcia0 at cardslot0
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801GBM LPC" rev 0x02: PM disabled
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801GB IDE" rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled)
ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801GBM AHCI" rev 0x02: msi, AHCI 1.1
scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <ATA, TOSHIBA THNSNC12, CJSA> SCSI3 0/direct 
fixed t10.ATA_TOSHIBA_THNSNC128GMMJ_Z05S1020THEZ
sd0: 122104MB, 512 bytes/sector, 250069680 sectors, thin
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801GB SMBus" rev 0x02: apic 1 int 23
iic0 at ichiic0
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
spkr0 at pcppi0
aps0 at isa0 port 0x1600/31
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
run0 at uhub0 port 5 "Ralink 802.11 n WLAN" rev 2.00/1.01 addr 2
run0: MAC/BBP RT3070 (rev 0x0201), RF RT3020 (MIMO 1T1R), address 
10:6f:3f:ea:87:0c
uhidev0 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Areson USB Device" rev 
1.10/0.01 addr 2
uhidev0: iclass 3/1
ums0 at uhidev0: 5 buttons, Z dir
wsmouse1 at ums0 mux 0
uhidev1 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interface 1 "Areson USB Device" rev 
1.10/0.01 addr 2
uhidev1: iclass 3/0, 1 report id
uhid0 at uhidev1 reportid 1: input=7, output=7, feature=0
ugen0 at uhub4 port 2 "STMicroelectronics Biometric Coprocessor" rev 1.00/0.01 
addr 2
vscsi0 at root
scsibus2 at vscsi0: 256 targets
softraid0 at root
scsibus3 at softraid0: 256 targets
root on sd0a (2a6c0cb2b714a4f0.a) swap on sd0b dump on sd0b
WARNING: / was not properly unmounted

-f
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