On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Kevin Chadwick <m8il1i...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:19:57 +0900
> Joel Rees wrote:
>
>> I'm using XFCE4 okay. It's a bit heavy, but I can use it, with patience.
>>
>> (I need to check my X11 configuration.)
>>
>> But fvwm, the "default" window manager, is no lighter than XFCE4.
>
>
> Do you mean xfwm which is based on fvwm, if so the lightness is likely
> similar but full XFCE is obviously heavier as it takes longer to load
> up, but ofc ourse it does a lot more.

On my twelve or thirteen year old single-processor 32-bit box running
a Japanese IME and stuff that works with Japanese, fvwm doesn't really
feel any lighter. Typing really lags sometimes when the processor gets
busy.

Which is what I should have said and didn't. Sorry.

> I've also had instances where the
> whole of XFCE locks up, which doesn't happen with fvwm.

I've locked up fvwm twice today, but I'm sure it's because I don't
know what I'm doing yet.

> Also one
> xfce-terminal seems to be able to take out all the others which doesn't
> happen with xterm and you hit process limits.
>
> I still use fvwm1 rather than fvwm2 but that is mainly because I see
> little need. Pcmanfm has a terminal here and find built in by default
> that Thunar doesn't have  but whilst pcmanfm is still usable it does
> core dump sometimes with fvwm1 whilst it doesn't seem to with fvwm2,
> perhaps that is because I only enable some dbus services. Whatever the
> reason that has to be primarily a bug in pcmanfm and not the fault of
> fvwm. I still haven't worked out if fvwm2 is as easy to lock down as
> fvwm1 either and the config migration seems to have dropped fvwm1
> support now too.
>
> https://opensource.conformal.com/wiki/spectrwm
>
> Is a tiling wm and hacked up by OpenBSD devs. I'd be using that but I'm
> not sure I could make it easy for my users to use it (not it's aim) and
> until I have time to find out then I like to use whatever I give my
> users. Of course that's chicken and egg so it's probably time I
> switched and found out. However simply getting a consistent dark theme
> across apps with differences between current and release is challenge
> enough.

Yeah, I need to make time to experiment and learn better ways to do things, too.

-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful when you look at conspiracy.
Look first in your own heart,
and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy.
Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well.

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