On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 16:24:52 +0100
Nicolas Schmidt <schmi...@math.hu-berlin.de> wrote:

> So they wrote a program that was a) shitty and b) memory-safe? Those are two 
> orthogonal dimensions. Also, the anecdotal evidence that safe languages 
> attract bad programmers does not imply that using safe languages is bad: a 
> good programmer won't suddenly commit such atrocities as you mentioned, just 
> because they use a safe language.

A good programmer won't even need these languages in the first
place. Case in point, the entire OpenBSD dev team. :)

> Finally, your example probably speaks more about business practices than 
> about safe programming languages. If you want to compare Java to a 
> non-memory-safe language, you should compare it to one that is also designed 
> *for* (instead of *by*) programmers, like Cobol.

It goes back to the point I make though, that these languages encourage
this kind of behavior by promoting a false sense of security, hence complacency.

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