Tue, 27 Feb 2018 10:42:42 -0500 Mike <the.li...@mgm51.com> > On 2/27/2018 8:51 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2018/02/27 08:30, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > >> Not new at all. > >> > >> https://www.servethehome.com/intel-atom-c3338-benchmarks-why-denverton-is-so-sweet/ > >> > >> https://www.servethehome.com/intel-atom-c3558-linux-benchmarks-and-review/ > >> > >> https://www.servethehome.com/ > >> intel-atom-c3958-16-core-top-end-embedded-qat-linux-benchmarks-and-review/ > >> > > > > Launch date q3 '17 is pretty new. > > > > fwiw, for a couple of years, I've been running what could be considered > the prior model of that motherboard, the A1SRi-2758F. OpenBSD has no > issues running on it. I use CLI elusively, no X stuff..
Hi Mike, I laugh every time someone mentions serve-their-home sponsored web site. I also laugh at people who can't quote in email but tend to give advice. Here is what I think, disregard Rupert, and skip new unsupported boards. Evasively this has not affected your system mainboard, very interesting: https://www.servethehome.com/intel-atom-c2000-series-bug-quiet/ https://www.google.com/search?q=atom+c2758+sudden+death The fault affects various makers, manifests itself in dead system board. https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/x10/a1sri-2758f.cfm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Atom_microprocessors#Silvermont_microarchitecture_4 In light of meltdown spectres, how come this did not get any fancy icon? We are also VERY seriously concerned of critical faults in BMC firmware. https://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/ipmi.cfm https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/IPMI_Security_Updates Here is the current generation of Atom server boards discussed in the thread, these are quite new and still unsupported: https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Atom_microprocessors#Goldmont_microarchitecture_2 I suspect critical bugs down the line with c3000, to re-warrant extended product life statements back to the reality of 2yrs, smells like a plan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence#Contrived_durability I have a previous generation Atom D525 right next to me, SuperMicro made X7SPA-HF-D525-O and can report DISSATISFACTION with both of BMC firmware operating system related vulnerabilities and its reliability. I have to constantly restart the BMC before reboots and totally skipped next gens. https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/ich9/x7spa-hf-d525.cfm https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/X7SPA-HF Marketing stuff of no real technical value (will praise anything for $): https://www.servethehome.com/supermicro-x7spahfd525-x7spehfd525-atom-server-motherboard-review/ I will SKIP until both the BMC starts getting accessible to reprogram w/ OpenBSD tools into using OpenBSD as the BMC firmware.. and further until Intel stops shipping processors set to fail with hardware bugs, remotely exploitable management engines and microcode malware disasters included. Conclusion: Atom server boards are overpriced and the BMC are a failure! Mobo makers do NOT provide fixes to issues w/ BMC security, reliability. Check BMC firmware upgrades paths and third party reports on the BMC fw. https://www.google.com/search?q=WPCM450 https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Nuvoton_WPCM450R_IPMI_Chip_with_ATEN-Software https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Supermicro_IPMI_Security_Updates_November_2013 There are NO BMC firmware upgrades past R3.16 and BIOS 1.2b really none. I am very disappointed the BMC crashes on its own, and prevents reboots. https://www.supermicro.com/support/bios/firmware0.aspx https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/IPMI_Security_Updates https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/download.html?manufacturer=5&category=82&product=7224 https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA-HF-D525.cfm Now a mandatory dmesg, BMC crash indication at the end, affects reboots. I bought this board brand new in May 2011, one year later the BMC fails. Note, the board has the latest BIOS and BMC firmwares, and still the BMC OS keeps crashing every couple of minutes. It is one major RMA incident & the 2 companies selling the boards in my country can not help, at all. The faulty chip is the Winbond WPCM450 BMC: avoid everywhere. I can not be convinced its AST2400 & AST2500 replacements are anything better. It is really loudly screaming for an OpenBSD reflash, but I have no images. https://www.google.com/search?q=AST2400 https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/ASPEED_AST2400_IPMI_Chip_with_ATEN-Software https://www.google.com/search?q=AST2500 OpenBSD runs extremely stable on this board, but I hate the BMC, period. Before buying mainboards ask long term usage reports from OpenBSD users! Kind regards, Anton Lazarov OpenBSD 6.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #11: Mon Feb 26 19:16:54 MST 2018 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 4277665792 (4079MB) avail mem = 4140994560 (3949MB) mpath0 at root scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0x9ac00 (19 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "1.2b" date 07/19/13 bios0: Supermicro X7SPA-HF acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET EINJ BERT ERST HEST acpi0: wakeup devices P0P1(S4) PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) USB0(S4) USB1(S4) USB2(S4) USB5(S4) EUSB(S4) USB3(S4) USB4(S4) USB6(S4) USBE(S4) P0P4(S4) P0P5(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) [...] acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz, 1800.24 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,SENSOR,MELTDOWN cpu0: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.1, IBE cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz, 1800.00 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,SENSOR,MELTDOWN cpu1: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0 cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz, 1800.00 MHz cpu2: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,SENSOR,MELTDOWN cpu2: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu2: smt 1, core 0, package 0 cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz, 1800.00 MHz cpu3: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,SENSOR,MELTDOWN cpu3: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu3: smt 1, core 1, package 0 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins , remapped to apid 4 acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe0000000, bus 0-255 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P4) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P8) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P9) acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!) acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!) acpicpu2 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!) acpicpu3 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!) acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB ipmi at mainbus0 not configured pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Pineview DMI" rev 0x02 uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 21 uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 19 ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 18 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801I PCIE" rev 0x02: msi pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 radeondrm0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "ATI Radeon HD 5450" rev 0x00 drm0 at radeondrm0 radeondrm0: msi azalia0 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 "ATI Radeon HD 5470 Audio" rev 0x00: msi azalia0: no supported codecs ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 "Intel 82801I PCIE" rev 0x02: msi pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 em0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82574L" rev 0x00: msi, address 00:25:90:06:f2:ae ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 "Intel 82801I PCIE" rev 0x02: msi pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 em1 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82574L" rev 0x00: msi, address 00:25:90:06:f2:af uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 23 uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 19 uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 18 ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 23 usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1 at usb1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI" rev 0x92 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 "Matrox MGA G200eW" rev 0x0a at pci4 dev 4 function 0 not configured pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801IR LPC" rev 0x02 pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801I SATA" rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI pciide0: using apic 4 int 19 for native-PCI interrupt wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: <WDC WD1600AAJS-00L7A0> wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 152627MB, 312581808 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6 ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801I SMBus" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 18 iic0 at ichiic0 lm1 at iic0 addr 0x2d: W83627DHG spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600 SO-DIMM spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600 SO-DIMM pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 "Intel 82801I SATA" rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 wired to native-PCI, channel 1 wired to native-PCI pciide1: using apic 4 int 19 for native-PCI interrupt usb2 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb4 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb5 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub5 at usb5 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb6 at uhci4: USB revision 1.0 uhub6 at usb6 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb7 at uhci5: USB revision 1.0 uhub7 at usb7 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0: console com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com2 at isa0 port 0x3e8/8 irq 5: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 irq 1 irq 12 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 wbsio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: W83627DHG rev 0x25 uhidev0 at uhub4 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Winbond Electronics Corp Hermon USB hidmouse Device" rev 1.10/0.01 addr 2 uhidev0: iclass 3/1 ums0 at uhidev0: 3 buttons, Z dir wsmouse0 at ums0 mux 0 uhidev1 at uhub4 port 2 configuration 1 interface 1 "Winbond Electronics Corp Hermon USB hidmouse Device" rev 1.10/0.01 addr 2 uhidev1: iclass 3/1 ukbd0 at uhidev1: 8 variable keys, 6 key codes wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1 vscsi0 at root scsibus1 at vscsi0: 256 targets softraid0 at root scsibus2 at softraid0: 256 targets root on wd0a (91aa77d5c36e292c.a) swap on wd0b dump on wd0b radeondrm0: 1280x1024, 32bpp wsdisplay0 at radeondrm0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation), using wskbd0 wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (std, vt100 emulation) wsmouse0: can't attach mux (error=5) wsmouse0 detached ums0 detached uhidev0 detached wskbd1: disconnecting from wsdisplay0 wskbd1 detached ukbd0 detached uhidev1 detached
