Hi ivpgbe@,

Thanks for the details!
Yes, it was not my intention to indicate anything; but since I saw
those reports of bricked machines during the last days (and having
Thinkpads myself) I wanted to be rather safe than sorry.

regards,
Robert


On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 07:15:10 -0700
ivp...@eml.cc wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> 
> I'm certainly not trolling (although I'm not sure what would be a protocol to 
> prove it, other than posting a video that shows all mentioned BIOS settings 
> and than a successful boot), and I'm sure you are not trolling either, as I 
> can see a number of postings to this mailing list and your first one is from 
> 10 years ago. [1] A never considered a threat model where a malicious user 
> posts knowingly bad BIOS settings to brick other users machines, thank you 
> for being vigilant. If anyone else thinks that posting a video with my BIOS 
> settings and a successful boot would be useful, I'm happy to do that.
> 
> In addition to double-checking my settings, I also looked at 4 links you've 
> provided (I don't read German and can't check the last one).
> 
> The first one is a very similar machine (the difference, from what I 
> understand, is that all Yoga's have a multi-touch screen), but the post is 
> from 7/13, and whatever the issue they encountered, I'm using a later BIOS 
> (version 1.31 from 9/15).
> 
> The second one is posted on 9/15, but the author and few others with similar 
> problems have P52, which is a different machine - dual graphics with NVIDIA 
> chip and a different CPUs - either i8750H or i8850H 6-core processors, while 
> I have a i8550U. However, what is similar, is that enabling the BIOS Assist 
> Mode does indeed require a 15-sec or so reboot, as the author describes, and 
> that seemed to be a step that bricked their machine.
> 
> The third author also has a different machine (P1, also with NVIDIA 
> graphics), and they refer to BIOS version 1.12 from 10/12 release - again, a 
> different BIOS. They also post a solution for their problem [2], however it 
> requires extracting firmware and flushing it to EEPROM, so you better know 
> what you are doing.
> 
> The fourth author has a P72 (also a machine with NVIDIA graphics), and they 
> did say they changed something in BIOS although they never specify what 
> exactly.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> [1] https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=128033208924257&w=2
> [2] 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/9rnimi/ladies_and_gentlemen_i_present_to_you_the/
> 
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018, at 4:47 AM, Robert wrote:
> > WARNING:
> > 
> > I do not know if the orginal author is serious, or if he is trolling.
> > 
> > But there are known issues with the stated Thunderbolt setting in BIOS
> > that can brick your Thinkpad beyond repair (or BIOS reset).
> > 
> > See here:
> > https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/Thinkpad-X1-Yoga-3rd-Gen-Stuck-at-Black-Screen-After-Enabling/td-p/4106952/page/3
> > https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile/Lenovo-P52-bricked-by-selecting-BIOS-thunderbolt-support-for/td-p/4207538
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/9qmqd2/thinkpad_p1_serious_issue_with_bricked_bios/
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/9nb3zo/new_thinkpad_p72_biosuefi_corrupted_just_black/
> > 
> > (german)
> > https://www.notebookcheck.com/Lenovo-Einige-aktuelle-ThinkPads-koennen-scheinbar-durch-eine-UEFI-Einstellung-zerstoert-werden.346101.0.html
> > 
> > /Robert
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 00:50:03 -0700
> > ivp...@eml.cc wrote:
> >   
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > several people reported about various problems with Lenovo Thinkpad X1 
> > > Carbon 6th gen (X1C6), when performance become sluggish and fan goes 
> > > wild. [1] [2] [3]
> > > 
> > > I had similar problem (system OK, become sluggish with high CPU 
> > > utilization after sleep/wake), but was able to completely and reliably 
> > > fix it by updating to latest Lenovo BIOS (2018-09-17, version 1.31), and 
> > > setting the following settings in the BIOS:
> > > 
> > > * UEFI Secure Boot: Off
> > > * Power -> Sleep State: Linux
> > > * Startup -> UEFI/Legacy Boot: UEFI Only
> > > * Startup -> CSM Support: Yes
> > > * Config -> Thunderbolt(TM) 3 -> Thunderbolt BIOS Assist Mode: Enable
> > > * Config -> Thunderbolt(TM) 3 -> Wake by Thunderbolt(TM) 3: Disable
> > > 
> > > It's the Thunderbolt BIOS Assist Mode: Enable that finally solved my 
> > > problem. (In the BIOS itself, it recommends to set this option to Enable 
> > > for Linux systems). Everything is perfect now with my system.
> > > 
> > > I'm running -current:
> > > 
> > > thor$ dmesg | grep OpenBSD       
> > > OpenBSD 6.4-current (GENERIC.MP) #391: Thu Oct 25 15:27:35 MDT 2018
> > > 
> > > I'm happy to assist other OpenBSD users or developers if you need help 
> > > further investigating this issue. I have described my adventure, along 
> > > with dmesg and other details, here [4]. My dmesg is below.
> > > 
> > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb7mDXHGDFk
> > > [2] https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=154070079630478
> > > [3] https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=153770491811274&w=2
> > > [4] 
> > > https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/9q8atz/thinkpad_x1c6_heats_up_dramatically_drops/
> > > 
> > > OpenBSD 6.4-current (GENERIC.MP) #391: Thu Oct 25 15:27:35 MDT 2018
> > >     dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
> > > real mem = 16912433152 (16128MB)
> > > avail mem = 16390590464 (15631MB)
> > > mpath0 at root
> > > scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
> > > mainbus0 at root
> > > bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 3.0 @ 0x4f057000 (63 entries)
> > > bios0: vendor LENOVO version "N23ET56W (1.31 )" date 09/17/2018
> > > bios0: LENOVO 20KHCTO1WW
> > > acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
> > > acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
> > > acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT SSDT TPM2 UEFI SSDT SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ECDT 
> > > SSDT SSDT BOOT BATB SSDT SSDT SSDT LPIT WSMT SSDT SSDT SSDT DBGP DBG2 
> > > MSDM DMAR NHLT ASF! FPDT UEFI
> > > acpi0: wakeup devices GLAN(S4) XHC_(S3) XDCI(S4) HDAS(S4) RP01(S4) 
> > > PXSX(S4) RP02(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) RP04(S4) PXSX(S4) RP05(S4) PXSX(S4) 
> > > RP06(S4) PXSX(S4) RP07(S4) [...]
> > > acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
> > > acpihpet0 at acpi0: 23999999 Hz
> > > acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
> > > cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
> > > cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz, 1393.14 MHz, 06-8e-0a
> > > cpu0: 
> > > FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,L1DF,SSBD,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XGETBV1,XSAVES,MELTDOWN
> > > cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> > > cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
> > > mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
> > > cpu0: apic clock running at 23MHz
> > > cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.2.4.1.1.1, IBE
> > > cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
> > > cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz, 1138.49 MHz, 06-8e-0a
> > > cpu1: 
> > > FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,L1DF,SSBD,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XGETBV1,XSAVES,MELTDOWN
> > > cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> > > cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
> > > cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor)
> > > cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz, 950.25 MHz, 06-8e-0a
> > > cpu2: 
> > > FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,L1DF,SSBD,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XGETBV1,XSAVES,MELTDOWN
> > > cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> > > cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0
> > > cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor)
> > > cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz, 897.90 MHz, 06-8e-0a
> > > cpu3: 
> > > FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,L1DF,SSBD,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XGETBV1,XSAVES,MELTDOWN
> > > cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> > > cpu3: smt 0, core 3, package 0
> > > ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 120 pins
> > > acpimcfg0 at acpi0
> > > acpimcfg0: addr 0xf0000000, bus 0-127
> > > acpiec0 at acpi0
> > > acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
> > > acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (RP01)
> > > acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP02)
> > > acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP03)
> > > acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP04)
> > > acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 4 (RP05)
> > > acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP06)
> > > acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP07)
> > > acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP08)
> > > acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus 5 (RP09)
> > > acpiprt10 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP10)
> > > acpiprt11 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP11)
> > > acpiprt12 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP12)
> > > acpiprt13 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP13)
> > > acpiprt14 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP14)
> > > acpiprt15 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP15)
> > > acpiprt16 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP16)
> > > acpiprt17 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP17)
> > > acpiprt18 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP18)
> > > acpiprt19 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP19)
> > > acpiprt20 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP20)
> > > acpiprt21 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP21)
> > > acpiprt22 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP22)
> > > acpiprt23 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP23)
> > > acpiprt24 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP24)
> > > acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3(200@1034 mwait.1@0x60), C2(200@151 mwait.1@0x33), 
> > > C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
> > > acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3(200@1034 mwait.1@0x60), C2(200@151 mwait.1@0x33), 
> > > C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
> > > acpicpu2 at acpi0: C3(200@1034 mwait.1@0x60), C2(200@151 mwait.1@0x33), 
> > > C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
> > > acpicpu3 at acpi0: C3(200@1034 mwait.1@0x60), C2(200@151 mwait.1@0x33), 
> > > C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
> > > acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS, resource for XHC_
> > > acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 128 degC
> > > acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x00000010 0x00000011 0x00000000
> > > acpithinkpad0 at acpi0
> > > acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit offline
> > > acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "01AV494" serial  2141 type LiP oem "LGC"
> > > "LEN0100" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "INT3403" at acpi0 not configured
> > > acpicmos0 at acpi0
> > > "INT0E0C" at acpi0 not configured
> > > acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
> > > "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
> > > acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID_
> > > "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "INT3400" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "STM7304" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "USBC000" at acpi0 not configured
> > > acpivideo0 at acpi0: GFX0
> > > acpivout at acpivideo0 not configured
> > > cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1393 MHz: speeds: 2001, 2000, 1900, 1800, 1700, 
> > > 1500, 1400, 1300, 1200, 1100, 1000, 800, 700, 600, 500, 400 MHz
> > > pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
> > > pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Core 8G Host" rev 0x08
> > > inteldrm0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel UHD Graphics 620" rev 0x07
> > > drm0 at inteldrm0
> > > inteldrm0: msi
> > > error: [drm:pid0:i915_firmware_load_error_print] *ERROR* failed to load 
> > > firmware i915/kbl_dmc_ver1.bin (-22)
> > > inteldrm0: 2560x1440, 32bpp
> > > wsdisplay0 at inteldrm0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation)
> > > wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (std, vt100 emulation)
> > > "Intel Core 6G Thermal" rev 0x08 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 not configured
> > > "Intel Core GMM" rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 not configured
> > > xhci0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 "Intel 100 Series xHCI" rev 0x21: msi, 
> > > xHCI 1.0
> > > usb0 at xhci0: USB revision 3.0
> > > uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel xHCI root hub" rev 
> > > 3.00/1.00 addr 1
> > > pchtemp0 at pci0 dev 20 function 2 "Intel 100 Series Thermal" rev 0x21
> > > dwiic0 at pci0 dev 21 function 0 "Intel 100 Series I2C" rev 0x21: apic 2 
> > > int 16
> > > iic0 at dwiic0
> > > "Intel 100 Series MEI" rev 0x21 at pci0 dev 22 function 0 not configured
> > > ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 100 Series PCIE" rev 0xf1: msi
> > > pci1 at ppb0 bus 2
> > > iwm0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265" rev 
> > > 0x78, msi
> > > ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 "Intel 100 Series PCIE" rev 0xf1: msi
> > > pci2 at ppb1 bus 4
> > > nvme0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 vendor "Intel", unknown product 0xf1a6 rev 
> > > 0x03: msi, NVMe 1.3
> > > nvme0: INTEL SSDPEKKF256G8L, firmware L08P, serial BTHH81460SY7256B
> > > scsibus1 at nvme0: 1 targets
> > > sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <NVMe, INTEL SSDPEKKF25, L08P> SCSI4 
> > > 0/direct fixed
> > > sd0: 244198MB, 512 bytes/sector, 500118192 sectors
> > > ppb2 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 100 Series PCIE" rev 0xf1: msi
> > > pci3 at ppb2 bus 5
> > > pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 200 Series LPC" rev 0x21
> > > "Intel 100 Series PMC" rev 0x21 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 not configured
> > > azalia0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 200 Series HD Audio" rev 0x21: 
> > > msi
> > > azalia0: codecs: Realtek/0x0285, Intel/0x280b, using Realtek/0x0285
> > > audio0 at azalia0
> > > ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 4 "Intel 100 Series SMBus" rev 0x21: apic 
> > > 2 int 16
> > > iic1 at ichiic0
> > > em0 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 "Intel I219-V" rev 0x21: msi, address 
> > > e8:6a:64:26:e9:46
> > > isa0 at pcib0
> > > isadma0 at isa0
> > > pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 irq 1 irq 12
> > > pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
> > > wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> > > pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
> > > wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
> > > wsmouse1 at pms0 mux 0
> > > pms0: Synaptics clickpad, firmware 8.16, 0x1e2b1 0x940300
> > > pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
> > > spkr0 at pcppi0
> > > vmm0 at mainbus0: VMX/EPT
> > > efifb at mainbus0 not configured
> > > uvideo0 at uhub0 port 8 configuration 1 interface 0 "SunplusIT Inc 
> > > Integrated Camera" rev 2.01/17.11 addr 2
> > > video0 at uvideo0
> > > umass0 at uhub0 port 15 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic USB3.0-CRW" 
> > > rev 3.00/29.08 addr 3
> > > umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
> > > scsibus2 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0
> > > sd1 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 0: <Generic-, SD/MMC CRW, 1.00> SCSI4 0/direct 
> > > removable serial.0bda0328008282014000
> > > vscsi0 at root
> > > scsibus3 at vscsi0: 256 targets
> > > softraid0 at root
> > > scsibus4 at softraid0: 256 targets
> > > sd2 at scsibus4 targ 1 lun 0: <OPENBSD, SR CRYPTO, 006> SCSI2 0/direct 
> > > fixed
> > > sd2: 244197MB, 512 bytes/sector, 500116577 sectors
> > > root on sd2a (8c92a635b1e05d0d.a) swap on sd2b dump on sd2b
> > > iwm0: hw rev 0x230, fw ver 22.361476.0, address 18:1d:ea:ff:aa:cd
> > > acpivideo0: unknown event 0x00
> > > video0 detached
> > > uvideo0 detached
> > > sd1 detached
> > > scsibus2 detached
> > > umass0 detached
> > > uhub0 detached
> > > uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel xHCI root hub" rev 
> > > 3.00/1.00 addr 1
> > > uvideo0 at uhub0 port 8 configuration 1 interface 0 "SunplusIT Inc 
> > > Integrated Camera" rev 2.01/17.11 addr 2
> > > video0 at uvideo0
> > > umass0 at uhub0 port 15 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic USB3.0-CRW" 
> > > rev 3.00/29.08 addr 3
> > > umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
> > > scsibus2 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0
> > > sd1 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 0: <Generic-, SD/MMC CRW, 1.00> SCSI4 0/direct 
> > > removable serial.0bda0328008282014000
> > >   
> >   
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