RAID is not a backup solution and should not be treated as one

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 3:41 PM sven falempin <sven.falem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 8:10 AM Nick Holland <n...@holland-consulting.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/3/19 10:01 AM, sven falempin wrote:
> > > Dear readers,
> > >
> > > I was running a OpenBSD (6.4) device, with a raid mirror array.
> > > One of the disk failed, so the system ask me to fsck,
> >
> > Probably not quite that simple.  More likely, the disk failed,
> > that took the system down hard, and it needed an fsck on reboot.
> > Which is normal, RAID or otherwise.
> >
> > > which I did before checking the raid status manually ( :'( ) ,
> > > THEN I rebooted and softraid told me: one of the hard drive is dead.
> > >
> > > But fsck already destroyed a few file on the mirror.
> >
> > that seems unlikely.  that's not what fsck does -- fsck's job is to
> > repair a file system.  If it removes a file, the file is already
> > damaged.
> >
> > > Probably a user error, nevertheless, In openbsd 'simply work' mindset,
> > > maybe the /etc/rc could warn or even perform some bioctl check on raid
> > > array when first fsck / mount
> > > fails.
> >
> > I'm not seeing what this has to do with RAID, soft or otherwise.  If your
> > system needed an fsck, it needed it whether it was a simple drive or a
> > RAID array.  If you need an fsck, you are likely to have lost data.
> >
> > > ( Lost data recovered from backup )
> >
> > And again...nothing to do with either fsck or RAID -- you have to have
> > a backup.  RAID doesn't change that.
> >
> > Nick.
> >
>
>
> Let me reformulate as a question, because I clearly misslead you in
> thinking that fsck -p from rc would delete files or having a backup
> is a bad idea. @_@
> I lose recent data with fsck -y , and use it because i have a backup,
> the data loss here was massive (old untouched files).
>
> How to check the state of the MIRROR raid array , to detect large
> amount of failures on one of the two disk ?
>
> Best.
>
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