The current "slogan" for 3.8 is "Free, Functional & Secure". My opinion is that it presents the project goals well in 4 simple words. It is not boastful, remember "Nothing is Impossible", or aims to create false belief/concept. We have our fair share of those, just switch on your TV.
Theo and others did and are still doing a great job in sticking to the project goals. Didn't know how the "Secure By Default" phrase came about, I do agree that it can be misleading for your case. You could refer your mother or nontechnical friends to the Project Goals page(not too long, 2 pages on my system). Also, I believe Theo and others would give it some consideration if you can come up with a better "slogan". Regards On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:40:13 -0800, "J.C. Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:50:31 -0700, Darrin Chandler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>The often used OpenBSD phrase "Secure By Default" actually encourages > >>the lazy attitudes and lack of learning. Worse yet, "Secure By Default" > >>is fairly misleading since systems are always secured by knowledge, > >>effort and dedication. > >> > >> > >I don't think "Secure by Default" is a bad thing. Neither perceptually > >nor in practice. I really like the ability to bring up an OpenBSD box on > >a public IP without much concern that it'll get hacked in 30 minutes. > > It seems I failed to be clear. Having sane default settings is a good > thing. I very much enjoy and appreciate both the utility and the > bragging rights of "Secure By Default" as much (if not more) than most > OpenBSD users. > > The sane default settings we enjoy have come from process of looking at > things critically so as to better understand all the implications. > > The point I failed to be clear on, is I think the same process of > critical thinking and understanding implications should also be applied > to the rhetoric we use for promotion. > > Go ask you mom or a nontechnical friend what she thinks when she hears > an operating system is "secure by default"? Ask her what it implies? Ask > her what she thinks it will require from her? > > My mom, in her late 60's, hates computers, hates the web, hates email > and has no interest in learning about computers but none the less, she > uses OpenBSD daily for web access and email. Her replies to those > questions were quite enlightening. > > kind regards, > JCR > -- Andrew Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service.