On 2023-07-24, Jay F. Shachter <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus predicted that Polarian would write on Sun Jul 23 
> 21:44:34 2023:
>> 
>> I believe I have discussed this before, but when I email any openbsd
>> mailing list (or email address) I get the "451 Temporary failure,
>> please try again later."
...
>> Although my emails eventually go through after about 20-40 minutes
>> of waiting, it is still incredibly annoying about the length of time
>> I have to wait for them to be delivered.

Once you have successfully sent mail once from an IP, it will be allowed
straight past the spamd greylisting for a period of time.

> Are you sure that users of gmail and outlook don't have the same
> problem?  If you're sure that they don't, it is most likely because
> the SMTP server at mail.openbsd.org has put them in its whitelist.

Either that or mail is sent often enough from their servers to
openbsd.org that they tend to bypass spamd most of the time.

> You didn't even mention the worst of it.  The first few times you
> connect to mail.openbsd.org, the system administrator insults you.
> 
> Here is a verbatim quote from an early SMTP session between my
> computer and mail.openbsd.org:
>
>     220 mail.openbsd.org ESMTP mail.openbsd.org; Wed Jul 12 12:55:35 2023
>     HELO m5.chicago.il.us
>     250 Hello, spam sender. Pleased to be wasting your time.
>     MAIL FROM:<[email protected]>
>     250 You are about to try to deliver spam. Your time will be spent, for 
> nothing.
>     RCPT TO:<[email protected]>
>     250 This is hurting you more than it is hurting me.
>     DATA
>     451 Temporary failure, please try again later.

Nothing to do with the sysadmin. See /usr/src/libexec/spamd/spamd.c.

> I almost didn't join this mailing list when I saw that.  But then I
> thought -- Why should I deprive myself of this mailing list, because
> the system administrator of mail.openbsd.org is an a.....e?

I think you should retract that statement.



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