On 2026-04-23 12:23 -05, izzy Meyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello OpenBSD-ers,
>
> A friend of mine was installing OpenBSD for the first time, and came
> upon a minor roadblock. Em didn't realize that you should really
> install all system software sets unless you're looking for a whole
> world of issues any sane person may not want to deal with. Part of me
> wanted to say to my friend: "Read the FaQ and get stuffed!", I didn't
> cos that wasn't the best idea to say to a new user. :)
>
> I understand if devs and any contributor feel(s) like my initial
> reaction, but would it hurt to add a 1/2-line warning?:

Not really, tbh. My reaction would have been: Install all the sets and
be done with it. I'm a bit surprised how that FAQ entry is written.

>
> ...
> [[LIST OF SETS]]
> You probably want to install all sets if you're new here. See
> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#FilesNeeded for more information.
> Location of sets? [cd0 disk http nfs or 'done'] default
>

The party line really is: "You have to install all sets, otherwise you
are not running OpenBSD and you are on your own." I.e. the advice can be
much firmer. I don't think we should link to the FAQ from the installer.
If you'd like to word smith this a bit and submit a patch for the
installer (to tech@ please), you'll probably get OKs for it.

Make sure that no information scrolls of the screen when you place your
additional text.

As to the FAQ, I think we should drop "(required)" from the table and
pull "New users are recommended..." to the top of the table.


> I am flexible where this comment can be added, there's a couple places
> that seem alright for different reasons.
>
> It might be a good idea to add this just so people are better
> informed about the system in a place where they might footgun
> themselves. Linking to the FaQ header could go a long way to teach the
> behavior of reading docs, if not already set in stone before coming to
> OpenBSD.
>
> Thoughts? I'm considering writing a diff if more end users than myself
> are interested.
>
> -- 
> iz (she/her)
>
>> i like to say mundane things,
>> there are too many uninteresting things
>> that go unnoticed.
>
> izder456 (dot) neocities (dot) org
>

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