> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Girish Venkatachalam
> Sent: 12 October 2006 11:57 AM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Simple Networking Newbie questions
> 
> Friends,
> 
>       I am a newbie to certain real world networking concepts since I
have
> no hands on experience in network deployments.
> 
>       And OpenBSD man pages unfortunately are not clear enough for me.
> Perhaps I am daft but I would gladly rewrite them for the benefit of
ppl
> like me...
> 
>       I also read FreeBSD man pages, googled and read wikipedia too.
Still
> no joy.
> 
>       Anyway I have few more questions, but let me begin with these.
> 
>       1) What exactly is the difference between tun(4), gif(4) and
gre(4)
> interfaces?
> 
>       As I understand it, gre is a Cisco tunneling mechanism for
generic
> IP encapsulation. tun is a generic network device useful for setting
up
> tunnels, but how?
> 
>       And gif can be used for setting IP in IP tunnels.
> 
>       But frankly I am not able to get any further with these
statements.
> 
>       How are these interfaces used in practice? I know that gre is
useful
> for PPTP traffic.
> 
>       And that gif can be used for IP in IP for instance, something
like
> IPsec. What about tun(4)? Is it used as a tunnel interface mechanism
from
> user space?
> 
>       Cant you have IPsec without using gif(4)? You can , right?
> 
>       2) My second question relates to vlan(4). Is my understanding
that
> you can extend ethernet segments logically across the Internet with
vlans
> correct? I am sure there is much more to it. I am getting some idea
from
> recent threads but I am interested in more practical anecdotes as to
where
> it is really useful.
> 
>       I guess vlans can also be used to split an ethernet broadcast
domain
> into multiple subnets. Does it help to do this for running pf on VLAN
> bridges?
>       Please be gentle if my questions are outright nonsensical.
> 
>       I think my other doubts on bridging, trunking etc. are not that
> troublesome since I seem to have an idea about them.
> 
>       Many thanks to everyone for taking time to read my e-mail.
> 
> regards,
> Girish

I use tun for ppp and gprs connections.

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