I write once again for the same old things I was writing at the opwnbsd 3.4. If you search the emails to the list are there.
Same old same old. The pppoe dial error (userland) "cant assign requsted address" after 4 major OpenBsd releases didnt go away. Noone cared to address the situation and of course the same old answer "diferent isps use diferent pppoe implementations" was the easy answer to leave the question unanswered. The 90% of home office internet conections are have to do with pppoe crapy dsl implementetions at least here in Europe. Despite that I have never found a single windows xp box to not work properly with these "crapy implementations" no matter to whatever adsl provider someone wants to conect to, and without the need for any extra drivers to be installed concerning these diferrent isps. So from the openbsd 3.4 release I have instaled Openbsd as a router (suggested by me) to different small offices succesfully and despite the Openbsd pppoe risk that these boxes will never see the Internet world. I just hoped and trusted the community, that someone will go and support the first thing that an os must be capable of, to conect to the internet using an available ISP. I hoped that someone in the community will fix the problems so will come one day that we can use an openbsd box to conect to the Internet without praying or going after that to a doctor for a nervous breakdown. So 3.5 -> 3.6 -> 3.7 -> 3.8 and now I am afraid to tell my clients to update. No matter what usefull things the new releases have if I can not conect them to the Internet the only option is to call microsoft to apply for the licencing program... THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGES FROM RELEASE TO RELEASE IN OPENBSD PPPOE IS THE ERROR MESSAGES AFTER A SUCCESSFUL CONECTION IS MADE. I am so disappointed with this, as every now and then in these years I read posts in the list, from the newbie trying to install an openbsd box for the first time, as users that are very familiar with openbsd like myself, crying out "the pppoe implementation in openbsd is broken". An answer to all these people: IS PPP OPENBSD IMPLEMENTATION BROKEN? YES IT IS NO MATTER WHAT YOU READ IN THE LIST. YES IT IS AND NO ONE CARES. YES YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG IN YOUR CONFIGURATION, THE ERRORS ARE NOT THERE FOR DEBUGGING JUST FOR SEEING THEM. On openbsd 3.9 I can conect through pppoe(userland) to my ISP everything works fine but I can not download more than 250KB/s despite that my line is capable of 2000KB/s. In a 3.5 box same configuration same ISP I am capable of 2000KB/s. May I must downgrade????? I myself want to ask whats the meaning of an os secure and capable of tasks if I can not conect to an ISP using the way that 90% of Inernet users use in this world. I have spend another week trying to resolve another pppoe problem, where everything seems to work fine as always, but as always in openbsd's pppoe something goes wrong. Of course if I conect my modem to a wondows xp "stupid insecure pc" or to e "Unix based "Powerbook" and I experince no such problems. I called my ISP after the line was installed and complain that my line dont work ok and now I think I may be have to call them and tell them that I just used a stupid os that cant do what the most "stupid" oses can DO. I needed to write this after 5 years of seeing the community to ignore the needs of its users. We have donated, support it and continue to do so. We have no right to demand things but I think we have the right to alert the community as definitily with this matter something IS DEFINITELY wrong. I think that the 50% of Openbsd users use pppoe conections and I thing that the 10% of us use for example IPSEC. Despite that IPSEC works far better than establishing a dsl conection and download at proper rates. And I am sure that this mail will be ignored as the 98329389283 mails in this list that noone answer and you can find in the list remaining for ever unanswered. So just I am Asking kindly again after 5 years. Will be a way to establish a dsl broadband conection from an openbsd gateway to an ISP without errors and problems ever in the future like the 99% of all other OSes (even those that are not deticated to networking as OpenBsd) CAN? OR NOT? Even if the abswer is NO I will be greatefull as many other users to know that so we can make our ways out of this OSas there are some thing in OS world that some of us cant live without it. Feel free not to comment.
