Heey Theo, Why don't you tell _him_ to shut up?
chefren wrote: > Sorry for the delay, I missed Toni's posting: > > On 10/13/06 10:31, Toni Mueller wrote: > > On Fri, 06.10.2006 at 00:46:11 +0200, chefren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > The argument against GPL that works best for me during "discussions" > > > about it is that GPL is BSD with Digital Rights Management. > > > > sorry, but this is a blatant lie. > > Why? > > > Arguing this way will hopefully get you *NO* success whatsoever, but a > > sound backslash instead. > > That's no argument, that's something stupid like "hope you will burn > in hell". (By the way: I don't care.) > > > Having said that, I think I understand the differences between these > > two licenses fairly well, and surely well above what Joe Average User > > is expected to understand. They both have their specific places and > > good philosophies behind them. > > Why do you say so? Has this anything to do with what I stated? > > > > Even GPL zealots have an extremely bad feeling while hearing "DRM", > > > again and again funny to see their faces while it sinks in. > > > > Every sane and at least minimally social person should have extremely > > bad feelings while hearing "DRM" (if they understand what DRM actually > > is about). > > [Pooh pooh, I have no problem with people want to manage their rights > as such, it's a free world and if people want to use their rights for > their products that's their choice and I will decide to choose for > them or not. Some products are so good or useful that it's a pleasure > for me to pay for them. I consider the OpenBSD CD's from Theo between > them.] > > Digital Rights Management is a term to describe ways to make the use > of creations less free. The BSD license is as free as possible, given > that almost all countries in this world grant rights to creators or > companies who pay them a salary. Without the BSD style abandonment of > those rights those rights are =always= there. So even if you find a > piece of code "left" on the street, you can not use it in a serious > product since the rightful owner, or his descendants for many years, > might ask for money from anyone for using it. > > So: BSD style licensing is the clear "zero" concerning copyright > management. =No= strings attached, you can do with BSD licensed code > whatever you want. =Any= added rule, like GPL clearly has, manages the > rights more than zero and can be considered Digital Rights Management. > > +++chefren > # Han
