On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 08:24:37AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting Jeff Quast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >On 11/14/06, Marc Ravensbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>I really don't want to download the source for java and compile... I am
> >>on dialup so every byte counts.

> >>I believe that java on bsd through emulation should be possible;
> >>probably just an oversight somwhere on my part.
> >>
> >>If anybody can give me some tips or tricks I would really appreciate it.
> >
> >I would, but I would just be (poorly) repeating information that
> >developers have painstakingly documented.
> >http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Programming
>
> I've read that info; the "preferred" way of installing java (on  
> openbsd) is by compiling from source. As I am a full time java  
> developer, I use and test several different jdks at once. You might be  
> able to understand why I am hesitant to compile and download all this  
> stuff when openbsd supports linux emulation, and I already have  
> downloaded all the linux jdks that I need.

If you're getting paid to develop on this, a little phone bill shouldn't
be that problematic, and you've already wasted as much time here as it
would have taken to download it in the first place.

If you're so set on using Linux JDKs, use Linux. That's what they are
for. If you really want, use Linux under some emulator (qemu is in
ports).

The fact that NetBSD apparently does manage to run your JDKs doesn't
necessarily mean it manages to run them reliably, either.

> >You should really send your grievences to sun, not openbsd misc.  
> >OpenBSD can't change Sun's licensing policies -- they can only abide
> >by them. Maybe all of this hoop jumping will make you realize that
> >using this language is a bad career move?
> 
> that is laughable, especially considering sun's anouncement yesterday  
> to GPL the entire java stack. Not trying to start a flame war here,  
> but open solaris, nexenta (solaris kernel, debian apps), and a million  
> linux distros all support Java really well. I am trying a java /  
> openbsd combination because I've heard good things about openbsd, and  
> from what I've seen so far I am very happy with it. I understand fully  
> why openbsd has issues with Java. I am not blaming them / you at all.

OpenBSD supports Java really well. Its Linux emulation is not perfect,
granted, but that's a wholly different issue.

                Joachim

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