> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:34 PM
> To: Gabe; Der Engel; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: OBSD: OS Of The Rad
> 
> 'Hard to say'? That response means 'No, I didn't miss his 
> point, I just
> want to be a hard-ass and then not really address it.'
> 

I'm not avoiding the issue of ridiculous hyperbole or opensource project
skepticism.


> He praised the OpenBSD project and those responsible for it... because
> it's worth praising.
> 

Riiiiiiiiiight. About both parts.

> Can't someone say something nice here without it being picked apart?
> 

The converse: Can something be picked apart even though it is not nice?
The Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

> 
> I will end on a nice note (call it "Leading by Example")... I agree
> completely with Karl's comments... OpenBSD rocks.
> 

Werd.

> Ducking,
> 

Word.

> Dan Farrell
> Applied Innovations
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
> > Gabe
> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:37 AM
> > To: 'Der Engel'; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad
> > 
> > Hard to say. His message had a few different themes in it.
> > He spoke about his dedication to the binary machine arts, but then
> > confessed
> > to using an expensive machine as a "door stop"?
> > 
> > And, he praises the use he's gotten from OBSD and the list, but then
> > jinxes
> > it by questioning its direction and bringing up the issue of its
> > lifecycle.
> > 
> > I just wanted to bring up the issue of idle time versus cpu time.
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of Der Engel
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:31 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad
> > >
> > > Umnada,
> > >
> > > Did you get his point?
> > >
> > > On 1/4/07, Umnada Tyrolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I came here to compute, to help inanimate machines do so,
> > > well. -this
> > > > > list, more than any other resource (including my old favorite
> > > > > google.com/bsd) got me where I was going.  The OS -how
> > > long will it
> > > > > last?  I hope forever.  But nothing lasts forever.  I do
> > > have an old
> > > > > host that's been up for 1,248 days without reboot, i'm
> > > sure there are
> > > > > those on this list with longer.
> > > >
> > > > First of all, not everyone likes to share how long, but
> > > thanks. Secondly, I
> > > > think it's not the duration of up-time but rather cpu usage
> > > time which says
> > > > what kind of machine you have.
> > > >
> > > > You know what I mean? CPU usage (on a user machine, not
> > > some bragbox) says
> > > > what kind of software and hardware stresses have been
> > > going. I've got over
> > > > 5,961,600 seconds of cpu usage on this machine. And it's not all
> pf,
> > > > spamassassin and mplayer. Not all.

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