> I haven't looked at the implementation in OpenBSD extensively, but at  

Well, perhaps you should, instead of commenting before you do.

> a basic level there are two portions, the greylist function, and the  
> "waste their time" function, yes?  I'm talking about bypassing the  
> first, not the second.

Neither cost us.  Neither is bypassable.

> Even in the second case, if the spammer notices they're connecting to  
> something that will waste their (bot's) time, they can simply  
> disconnect and use the bot's resources to do something else.

No spam was delivered.  Again, what is the problem?

> Not the  
> the spammers really care about wasting resources *that* much since  
> they don't have to pay for them (or very little for a bot herd  
> compared to "bulletproof hosting"), but it could make them a little  
> more efficient.

No spammers care about wasted resources?  I didn't know you were a
spammer, and knew what they cared about.  I guess their lack of
wasted resources must be why they retry, like SMP demands.  Except
they don't.  Perhaps it is not so simple?

> The history of fighting spam has tended to show that if any form of  
> combating spam becomes too effective (and wide-spread), spammers will  
> invest effort figuring out how to defeat it.

You're right.  We should not try.

This whole conversation is totally stupid.  You don't use spamd,
yet you want to discuss it.  I think you just want to see your words
on mailing lists.

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