Finally got this to work.  Here's the config that ended up working.

I'm not sure why I didn't notice before but the quick mode stuff wasn't setup correctly.

ipsec.conf
ike esp from 192.168.1.0/24 to 10.10.0.0/16 peer 2.2.2.2 \
       main auth hmac-sha1 enc 3des group modp768 \
       quick auth hmac-sha1 enc 3des group none psk openbsdrules


cisco
IKE proposal
authentication mode - presharedkeys
authentication algorithm - sha/hmac-160
encryption - 3DES-168
DH Group - 1 768-bits
Lifetime - 3600seconds

Lan-to-Lan connection
interface - external(2.2.2.2)
connection type - bi-directional
peer - 1.1.1.1
presharedkey - openbsdrules
authentication - esp/sha/hmac160
local network - 10.10.0.0  (wildcard mask 0.0.255.255)
remote network - 192.168.1.0 (wildcard mask 0.0.0.255)

SA
authentication - esp/sha/hmac160
encryption - 3DES-168
mode - tunnel
Lifetime - 1200seconds



Now I just have to figure out the routing :)




From: William Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: c l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: site-to-site vpn 4.0 to cisco 3000
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:53:12 -0700

The man page for isakpd.conf indeed sheds some light, there's an example in that page that show's how to specify lifetimes for both phases...

           [General]
           Default-phase-1-lifetime=       3600,60:86400
           Default-phase-2-lifetime=       1200,60:86400

At this point, if the lifetimes indeed agree, then I myself would be a little puzzled over why the proposal would be rejected. Both endpoints are configured to use the peer address as the ID? At first blush, your settings seem all kosher.

I would agree, though, that it certainly appears that there must still be some sort of inconsistency between the proposals.

Another suggestion...

It appears that you've been trying to initiate the VPN from one end, perhaps the OpenBSD end. Probably by sending a ping from the 1st site to the 2nd. Restart both ends to clear out any SAs that have been negotiated and try to ping from the -other- end in order to see what happens when the VPN negotiation is initiated the opposite direction. The log entries might show something useful.

Also, did the OpenBSD logs show any detail of the failure from the last attempts apart from the mismatched SA queries?


Bill


On Feb 25, 2007, at 14:48, c l wrote:

Hello, thanks for the reply, it helped if I'm not mistaken. I think I'm getting closer but still no joy. See below.

From: William Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: c l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: site-to-site vpn 4.0 to cisco 3000
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:02:13 -0700

I've setup maybe 78 LAN-to-LAN VPNs between my datacenter and other sites of customers and partners. However, I haven't had occasion to use OpenBSD as a VPN endpoint yet and I'm not an expert on the ike/ ipsec features of OpenBSD. Having said that, I've done quite a bit of VPN troubleshooting in the past, so I'll take a stab at this in general terms...

My reading of the three 'ike esp' statements in ipsec.conf is that you've declared three sets of SAs on the OpenBSD endpoint, all to peer 2.2.2.2 - one SA between the interior address spaces of the two locations, a second between the endpoint address of the 1st location and the interior address space of the 2nd, and a third between the endpoint addresses. That third one certainly catches my attention since I know that -some- pieces of equipment (particularly the PIX, ASA, and I believe the Juniper although I've never confirmed this for a Cisco 3000) hate the idea of having their own endpoint address included in the encryption domain. This seems likely to me as a cause for the rejection. This is something that IKE might negotiate on -some- manufacturer's equipment but not others. In most cases, there's no need for the endpoints to participate in the encryption domain since they aren't application servers - they only need to exchange IKE messages and then simply pass IPsec to/from their respective protected address spaces.

So my suggestion would be to strike that third 'ike esp' statement and then see what difference that makes in the log. As a special note, do be aware that this means that you probably won't be able to ping the 2.2.2.2 address from the 1st site (encryption enforcement on the Cisco will deny this, since you're pining from an address space at the 1st site that's covered by the VPN proposal and yet 2.2.2.2 is not in the encryption domain). If you need to troubleshoot the Cisco by pinging it, then you'll have to do so from a point -outside- the OpenBSD VPN endpoint.

This did in fact change the behavior. First I did as you suggested and struck the statement for the two end points. The logs showed a similar message as before but this time it complained about the src: 1.1.1.1 dst: 10.10.x.x tunnel. So I removed that one as well. So now my ipsec.conf has just the one line in it.

ike esp from 192.168.1.0/24 to 10.10.0.0/16 peer 2.2.2.2 \
       main auth hmac-sha1 enc 3des group modp768 psk openbsdrules

This gives me a different result.  Here is the output from the  cisco log.

2 02/25/2007 15:28:21.210 SEV=5 IKE/172 RPT=7437 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
Automatic NAT Detection Status:
  Remote end is NOT behind a NAT device
  This   end is NOT behind a NAT device

6 02/25/2007 15:28:21.310 SEV=4 IKE/119 RPT=6722 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
PHASE 1 COMPLETED

7 02/25/2007 15:28:21.310 SEV=4 AUTH/22 RPT=6617 1.1.1.1
User [1.1.1.1] Group [1.1.1.1] connected, Session Type: IPSec/LAN-to
-LAN

9 02/25/2007 15:28:21.310 SEV=4 AUTH/84 RPT=86
LAN-to-LAN tunnel to headend device 1.1.1.1 connected

10 02/25/2007 15:28:21.400 SEV=5 IKE/35 RPT=30 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
Received remote IP Proxy Subnet data in ID Payload:
Address 192.168.1.0, Mask 255.255.255.0, Protocol 0, Port 0

13 02/25/2007 15:28:21.400 SEV=5 IKE/34 RPT=9176 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
Received local IP Proxy Subnet data in ID Payload:
Address 10.10.0.0, Mask 255.255.0.0, Protocol 0, Port 0

16 02/25/2007 15:28:21.400 SEV=5 IKE/66 RPT=9174 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
IKE Remote Peer configured for SA: L2L: to_openbsd

17 02/25/2007 15:28:21.400 SEV=4 IKE/227 RPT=30 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
All IPSec SA proposals found unacceptable!

18 02/25/2007 15:28:21.400 SEV=4 IKEDBG/97 RPT=86 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
QM FSM error (P2 struct &0xe622d7c, mess id 0x58c640ca)!


Looks like it's getting a bit farther now. The /var/log/message still give me the dubious ID message along with 'giving up on exchange 192.168.1.0/16-10.10.0.0/16, no response from peer'.

Something must not match between the SA's



I haven't googled, as you have, for VPN examples involving OpenBSD and Cisco VPN 3000, but it would surprise me if someone had configured a VPN 3000 to include its endpoint address as part of an encryption domain successfully.

Another observation, even though it may not be relevant to the symptom you describe, is that I don't see the phase 1/2 SA lifetimes spelled out in your OpenBSD configuration even though they are spelled out on the Cisco device. I can't tell whether your IKE negotiation has gotten far enough to enforce lifetimes since it choked on the policy failure for 1.1.1.1/2.2.2.2. For all I know, maybe you've selected lifetimes on the Cisco that agree with the default lifetimes that OpenBSD uses. If so, I'd suggest that you explicitly spell out the lifetimes on the OpenBSD end since IKE/IPsec software (at large, not necessarily especially for OpenBSD) is somewhat notorious for changing defaults from time to time. If you accept defaults for things, you might find one day when upgrade to a future release of OpenBSD that the VPN suddenly stops negotiating.

I specifically changed the cisco's SA lifetimes to 3600 and 1200 because the isakmpd man page says those are the defaults. Maybe I mis-read it? I'll look again. Also the ipsec.conf man page doesn't say anything about specifying the lifetime. Where would I specify this on the OpenBSD box? Does it go in the /etc/isakmpd/ isakmpd.conf file?

I'm thinking these values don't jive between the two and that's why I see the
"All IPSec SA proposals found unacceptable!"  message.

Oh and I turned up debugging on isakmpd. Not sure which classes to fiddle with since A=99 gives me tons. I did see some messages about "no sa query matched"




There's also another reason to spell out lifetimes. Turns out that some VPN equipment is actually accommodating about proposed lifetime values from the remote end that don't agree with the local policy, while other equipment is not. So when interoperating two unlike VPN platforms (e.g. OpenBSD and Cisco), it's possible to get into a situation where one endpoint can initiate a VPN tunnel while other cannot (negotiation only works one way). Spelling out lifetimes on both ends avoids this situation. BTW, this sort of thing can also happen with a Diffie- Hellman group mismatch for phase 1, but I see that you've already spelled that one out on both ends.

Also, a bit off subject, it is goodness to keep the time sync'd on both endpoints (e.g. NTP).


Bill

On Feb 25, 2007, at 10:23, c l wrote:

Hello list,

I'm trying to get a site-to-site tunnel running between a 4.0 box and a cisco 3000 concentrator.

Here's the networks... (ip's changed to protect the innocent)

192.168.1.x [OpenBSD 4.0] 1.1.1.1 <-> internet <-> 2.2.2.2 [cisco 3000] 10.10.x.x

My ipsec.conf looks like this....

ike esp from 192.168.1.0/24 to 10.10.0.0/16 peer 2.2.2.2 \
       main auth hmac-sha1 enc 3des group modp768 psk openbsdrules
ike esp from 1.1.1.1 to 10.10.0.0/16 peer 2.2.2.2 \
       main auth hmac-sha1 enc 3des group modp768 psk openbsdrules
ike esp from 1.1.1.1 to 2.2.2.2 \
       main auth hmac-sha1 enc 3des group modp768 psk openbsdrules

On the cisco I've created IKE proposals, defined a LAN-to-LAN connection, and SAs like this...

IKE proposal
authentication - presharedkeys
encryption - 3DES-168
DH Group - 1 768-bits
Lifetime - 3600seconds

Lan-to-Lan connection
interface - external(2.2.2.2)
connection type - bi-directional
peer - 1.1.1.1
presharedkey - openbsdrules
authentication - esp/sha/hmac160
local network - 10.10.0.0  (wildcard mask 0.0.255.255)
remote network - 192.168.1.0 (wildcard mask 0.0.0.255)

SA
authentication - esp/sha/hmac160
encryption - 3DES-168
mode - tunnel
Lifetime - 1200seconds


On the OpenBSD box I start isakmpd with 'isakmpd -K', then ipsecctl -f /etc/ipsec.conf

After a bit of time I see this in /var/log/messages
isakmpd[18700]: ipsec_validate_id_information: dubious ID information accepted


And the cisco log shows this....

2 02/25/2007 10:37:16.280 SEV=5 IKE/172 RPT=7394 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
Automatic NAT Detection Status:
  Remote end is NOT behind a NAT device
  This   end is NOT behind a NAT device

6 02/25/2007 10:37:16.380 SEV=4 IKE/119 RPT=6680 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
PHASE 1 COMPLETED

7 02/25/2007 10:37:16.380 SEV=4 AUTH/22 RPT=6575 1.1.1.1
User [1.1.1.1] Group [1.1.1.1] connected, Session Type: IPSec/LAN-to
-LAN

9 02/25/2007 10:37:16.380 SEV=4 AUTH/84 RPT=52
LAN-to-LAN tunnel to headend device 1.1.1.1 connected

10 02/25/2007 10:37:16.500 SEV=5 IKE/25 RPT=9162 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
Received remote Proxy Host data in ID Payload:
Address 1.1.1.1, Protocol 0, Port 0

13 02/25/2007 10:37:16.500 SEV=5 IKE/24 RPT=27 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
Received local Proxy Host data in ID Payload:
Address 2.2.2.2, Protocol 0, Port 0

16 02/25/2007 10:37:16.500 SEV=4 IKE/61 RPT=27 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
Tunnel rejected: Policy not found for Src:1.1.1.1, Dst: 2.2.2.2!

18 02/25/2007 10:37:16.500 SEV=4 IKEDBG/97 RPT=52 1.1.1.1
Group [1.1.1.1]
QM FSM error (P2 struct &0xe7ed120, mess id 0xac462db5)!
&0xe7ed120, mess id 0xac462db5)!



Any ideas why I'm getting the "tunnel rejected" error? Does anyone see any glaring mistakes? After searching the archives and google'ing, I gather other folks are doing this without issue.

I have complete control over both devices so if there's any other info I can provide let me know.

I realize this isn't a cisco support list so if it's the cisco's fault I'll go bother someone else.


I appreciate your time, thank you.
please cc me as I'm not subscribed to the list.

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