On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 11:29:04PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> J Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > So - are you saying that these strings will never show up in the headers 
> > of an email message returned to a legitimate sender?
> 
> The way spamd works your message does not get handled by a real smtp
> daemon until it clears greylisting, in contrast to the various
> greylisting MTA plugins (postgrey which lives inside postfix adds a
> rather verbose message to headers IIRC).  bsdly.net runs spamd, so
> studying your logs or inbox to fish out any reference to the message
> I'm answering now will produce the answer you are looking for.  Did
> the delivery of this message produce anything you would rather not
> have your friends or customers to see?

I suspect I'm not the only person who's had the spamd messages come back
from someone who's message didn't come through. While in "normal"
circumstances these messages don't show, there are enough email
providers out there (large, commonly used ones) that retry a given email
in a round-robin fashion through a pool of outgoing servers. Since that
won't ever whitelist they get the usual 4 hour warning, and later the
bounce.

In the handful of cases I've personally dealt with, it hasn't caused
more than a slight embarassment. *Slight* because the messages aren't
really abrasive, but they do raise an eyebrow.

But the point is... legitimate senders *do* see these messages in
certain circumstances.

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Darrin Chandler                   |  Phoenix BSD Users Group
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