Well, which would you prefer, Peter? I've had systems that have had their power yanked from them several times now, and I've yet to have seen a screwed filesystem. Yes, files created or deleted with 30(?) seconds of the outage might be inconsisten or whatever, I'll take that any day over a damaged filesystem.
I think there are bugs in the softdep code. I know of one really busy system that has crashed because of softdeps being on, but only one and I've never been able to pin it down. I would say it works well and gets better with each release. --STeve Andre' On Wednesday 09 May 2007 12:03:40 Peter Fraser wrote: > I did read the papers. There is a difference between the file > system being screwed and data lost. Softupdates hopefully stops > the files system from being in a bad state, but it is amazing > how much user data can be lost on a power failure while using > softupdates. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of mickey > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:49 AM > To: Peter Fraser > Cc: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Softupdates question > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:45:15AM -0400, Peter Fraser wrote: > > I had always assumed the use of softupdates was safe as long > > as you could have reasonable assurances that the machine would > > not be shutdown without warning. (i.e. no loss of power or reset > > being hit). > > > > So if you had a UPS, good hardware, and no vandals it's good to use. > > actually if you bother to read the papers > whole idea behind softdeps is to ensure better recoverability > from crashes/power/etc. > cu > -- > paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has > remained)