On 9/21/07, stuart van Zee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "The One" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If anyone can solve security, whether it is with "Leopard" or in the > > future, Apple definitely can. > > > > In my opinion, Apple performs 100% in the software field, and 90% in > > the hardware field, which is due to, as I explained in my previous > > messages, depending off of factories in third-world countries that are > > not even Apple operated! > > > > But Apple has done so much with software, it is obvious that, in the > > end, Apple will reach the goal. Even when personal computers are > > replaced with a different technology, Apple will be on top. > > > > Solve security? GEESH! > > Mr. "The One" > > I must humbly submit to you that you DO NOT KNOW WHEREFORE YOU SPEAK! > There is no such thing as "Solving Security". It does not exist. > It could only exist in a perfect world and as you know, or at least > should know, this is NOT a perfect world. My opinion is that Apple > puts out a nice product for what it is. I love my MacBook, I use it > to play online games and work my "second job" as an internet radio > show personality. I use it when I don't want to think after a long > day of thinking at work (thinking isn't my best subject after all). > BUT! I do not delude myself into thinking that it is some great > bastion of security or ever will be. > > At work, I use OpenBSD for firewalls, mail servers, (gulp) an FTP > server, NIDS, time server, etc... etc... etc... Do I think that > OpenBSD is the end-all-be-all of security? nope. A system, no > matter how good it is, is only as good as the admin who sets it up. > Some systems start out from a much better position than others, > and my opinion is that OpenBSD is the very best at this, but > ultimately, it has to be set up to do whatever job it needs to > perform. No matter how perfect the base system is, there is no way > to get around this. There is NO WAY an OS can "SOLVE SECURITY". > It is as impossible as making an ice machine that "SOLVES" the > problem of ice melting. It is as idiotic as the belief that the > Titanic was "unsinkable". > > Please, do not put so much blind faith in a system that is built > more for user experience than it is for security. Do not put so > much blind faith in ANYTHING. Nothing is infallible, everything > eventually crumbles. Even OpenBSD has had 2 remote exploits in > the default install in the last 10 years. It happens, even to the > very best. Nothing can, or ever will, be able to change this, it > is an immutable fact. > > period. > > s > > Hi Stuart,
Of course, nothing can ever be immune! Sorry for allowing you to have such a misconception about myself! :) But, as I have said before, Apple has virtually never failed in software, why should it fail in security? The One.
