Hello Marc,

Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 1:13:23 PM, you wrote:

>>   May  be  it makes sense to set "-ncv" as a default behavior of rdate, but
>> there is should be a way to synchronize time without running a demon (don't
>> understand  why  are  people  so  aggressive  about that) if you don't need
>> up-to-second  synchronization  (in my case modern hardware goes less than a
>> second off per day, and really old hardware - less than 10 seconds).

MB> You don't understand the implications of changing the time of a computer
MB> at runtime.

  I believe I do. :)
  There  are  pros  and  cons  in  the  "demon" and in the "cron" schema. I
decided  to  use  cron and I know why. Every sysadmin/architect should make
that  decision  for  *his*  systems  (and  know  why).  "Home users" should
probably  stay  with the default (ntpd), but they are usually using Windows
and cheap "hardware" firewalls anyway. ;)

MB> If  either  case is acceptable depends on the software that runs on the
MB> computer.

  Exactly.  And  I  believe  that  "usual"  case is not a cluster, monetary
transaction server or traffic control system.

MB> A  computer  that  controls  an  insulin  pump  probably  should run at
MB> constant  speed  whereas  a computer that does a task at a certain time
MB> should not skip time units.

  Have  you  seen  an  insulin  pump ran by OpenBSD system? ;) Give me some
*real* examples (if you want to).

MB> If a cronjob runs at 17:10 and at 17:00 your wise cronjob sets the time
MB> to 17:20, cron will not start that job.

  First  of  all,  this  is not a *real* case again. I was talking about 10
seconds  a  day,  not  20  minutes.  If  your *production* hardware goes 20
minutes off a day you will probably replace it (I believe, for new hardware
it's a "warranty" case).
  Second   of  all,  I've  seen  that  behavior  (with  much  smaller  time
adjustments)  on  SCO, but OpenBSD handles it pretty good - my cron doesn't
repeat itself after adjusting time back.

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Best regards,
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