On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 08:52:16AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
> Alexander Polakov wrote:
> >* Predrag Punosevac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080613 18:19]:
> >  
> >>Alexander Polakov wrote:
> >>    
> >>>* Predrag Punosevac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080613 11:53]:
> >>>  
> >>>      
> >>>>Okan Demirmen wrote:
> >>>>    
> >>>>        
> >>>>>On Thu 2008.06.12 at 11:28 -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>>Daniel B. wrote:
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I can't get the response desired to some of the default keybindings 
> >>>>>>>in
> >>>>>>>cwm.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Some of them: M-/, C-/, M-?. With the first and the third, I just 
> >>>>>>>hear a
> >>>>>>>beep (or a Wuff!! in screen). The second delete my window if not in
> >>>>>>>screen, or just "Wuff!!" in screen.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Any hints? Thank you.
> >>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>can we see your .cwmrc?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>>I would try to arise ~/.cwmrc from your home directory. The another  
> >>>>>>thing is that you should carefully read man pages for cwm and make 
> >>>>>>sure you understand  the meaning  of  M (meta key).
> >>>>>>Meta key is different on  different  keyboards. So I do not know what 
> >>>>>>is  meta key on your key board but on mine IBM (M type) it is ALT. I 
> >>>>>>like  CWM very, very much but I didn't ditch the
> >>>>>>OpenBox just because I thing that CWM is rapidly changing and the  
> >>>>>>configuration process is not 100% bullet proof. Namely if you go to  
> >>>>>>web-site CWM you will see that configuration is very different than 
> >>>>>>of  the one in the base of OpenBSD. So obviously it has been modified 
> >>>>>>by  OpenBSD developers. I must however say that CWM looks impressive 
> >>>>>>to me  and I hope they fix  few issues and maybe introduce few new 
> >>>>>>features  which would probably make it one of the best WM around.
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>yes, our cwm is now very different.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>can you elaborate on the "few issues"?  there are a few, but i'm sure
> >>>>>you can help by informing us of issues we are not yet aware ;)
> >>>>>        
> >>>>>          
> >>>>Disclaimer:  I  played with CWM little bit so
> >>>>my statements should not be taken too seriously.
> >>>>
> >>>>I personally had hard time trying to configure CWM to lunch 
> >>>>applications. In another  words
> >>>>according to  documentation on
> >>>>CWM web site one needs to edit
> >>>>
> >>>>~/.calmwm
> >>>>
> >>>>but OpenBSD man pages say that
> >>>>~/.cwmrc
> >>>>
> >>>>is correct file to edit.
> >>>>
> >>>>Even after the editing ~/.cwmrc I could not
> >>>>open the menu with the right  button  on  the mouse  which  according 
> >>>>to CWM web-site should list the applications.
> >>>>
> >>>>That was on OpenBSD 4.2 release. I have not pursue the issue seriously 
> >>>>as according to
> >>>>discussion on misc about WM from about 2-3 months ago CWM is in 
> >>>>development.
> >>>>
> >>>>The only thing that I personally miss in CWM
> >>>>are virtual desktops. I DO know that if people start saying things like 
> >>>>that and developers start listening the CWM will soon become bloated. I 
> >>>>do not wish that. CWM is one of the best because it is minimalistic and 
> >>>>gets job done. It is also great thing that is in the base.
> >>>>
> >>>>    
> >>>>        
> >>>Bloated? What are you talking about? dwm [1] is less that 2000 LOC and 
> >>>it has
> >>>virtual desktops, various tiling alghorithms, nice panel, window
> >>>matching and what not. 
> >>>[1] http://dwm.suckless.org
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>      
> >>We were not even talking about dynamic window manager dwm. We were 
> >>talking about CWM which is in the base. Those are two different things. 
> >>Have you ever tried dwm?
> >>    
> >
> >Are you joking? Of course I did. I have been using dwm since its first
> >release.
> >
> >  
> >>Do you know that when you try to use full screen mode in Xpdf on dwm the 
> >>Xpdf will be unable to find it because of the way dwm is coded.
> >>    
> >
> >I dunno what do you mean by full screen mode. There's 1px border around
> >the window in fullscreen mode, you mean that by it 'being unable'?
> >
> >  
> >>Have you tried panel for dwm?
> >>    
> >
> >Tried? Hmmm... It just works.
> >
> >  
> >>Please do and then lets talk about it.
> >>
> >>I like dwm but it is not for everyone. One of the reasons I said what I 
> >>said above about CWM is that I would like to see CWM remaining as minimal 
> >>as possible which in practical terms means competing with DWM which is 
> >>the king of minimal.
> >>    
> >
> >My point was cwm is already bigger in size but less featurish, so I can't 
> >see
> >any way for it to be 'not bloated'.
> >
> >  
> Then you have a point:-)
> 
> Best,
> OKO

Holy crap, this is bad quoting.

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