On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:16:54 +0200 Henning Brauer
<lists-open...@bsws.de> wrote:

> * J.C. Roberts <list-...@designtools.org> [2009-09-02 17:53]:
> > Also, you might want to note the innards of *most* HP ProCurve gear
> > was actually rebranded Foundry hardware.
> > 
> > Since Brocade bought out Foundry, I believe HP is now using Force10
> > Networks hardware inside of their newer (rebranded) "ProCurve"
> > line. I might be wrong on this, but I remember being told about it
> > at InterOp Vegas earlier this year.
> 
> you are wrong.
> 
> the 9000 (_huge_ chassis switches) series was foundry with an HP
> label. that was about the only change, the sticker. otherwise just the
> successor of the bigiron 8000 line (forgot the name). that is a very
> good choice tho anyway. they don't sell that line any more.
> 
> there was one smaller one that was a foundry as well, 8 port
> 1000BaseSX. forgot the model number, i even have one somewhere (but
> not in use). not sold any more either.
> 

The above is basically what I meant. 

> all the rest of their product line - and that is a LOT of models - is
> their own line. 
> 

I've only worked on the _huge_ Foundry BigIron/NetIron/ServerIron 4000
and 8000 stuff (i.e. rebranded as "Procurve 9000"), so I don't know the
"small" stuff in the procurve line.

> i don't see any connection to force10.
>
> the successor of the 9000 line is the 8200zl and from all i can tell
> (i never touched on of those myself) has no relation to force10.
> force10's fabric is faster than the 692 GBit/s HP specs for the 8200,
> and the force10s are way way way more expensive. different league,
> entirely.
> 

I saw the 8200zl and 5400zl switches at the InterOp Vegas show. Though
they are not rebranded Foundry/Brocade, I was told they actually are
still rebranded somethings. As I said, I could be wrong recalling Force
10, and after looking at the specs/pics again, it seems I am wrong on
that.

Getting people at HP to just admit to rebranding is impossible, but
getting them to tell what's really inside the box is double impossible.

-- 
J.C. Roberts

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