On 19 February 2010 11:21, L. V. Lammert <l...@omnitec.net> wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Lars Nooden wrote:
>> L. V. Lammert wrote: >> > ... no way I'd saddle some of these >> > guys with vi, much less setting the cron time parameters correctly. >> Then you are far, far better off not letting them anywhere near the >> server room if they are that unqualified. > No, that isn't going to work. This isn't some elitist club - if we can't > provide a simple, sane, safe way for a [priviledged] user to push a backup > image out to a DR server, than *we* have failed as technologists. If *you* are letting underqualified users have privileged access to an Unix machine then the failure here is *you*. If *you* can't spend five minutes teaching your "sys admins" how to use 'crontab -e' then the failure here is *you*. If *you* are deploying an operating system that you don't have a qualified admin to handle then the failure here is *you*. It sounds to me like you don't have "basic sys admin types", you have a bunch of Microsoft folks that don't actually know anything about system administration, they just know how to click "okay". Teach them how to use Unix, they'll be better off for it. This isn't an OpenBSD or software issue (because the tools exist to easily and safely edit cron, and to easily and safely backup your system), this is a personnel issue - and if you can't be buggered to teach your admins how to use the tools provided, you should probably use a different system, just don't use Unix because the tools are pretty standard. kmw -- A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
