I still think that Adaptec was selled because of your stories :D It's
modern management style of thinking. Let's sell it (rename it) and we
can continue with our crap and advertise between people that "Yeah,
those old products were bad, but now it's different, we are new
company, everything is excellent now!" :D

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Nick Holland
<n...@holland-consulting.net> wrote:
> On 10/22/10 11:56, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
>> It's not only problem with license, but with quality of Adaptec as a
>> whole http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=125783114503531&w=2 . But
>> maybe it changed as there is not Adaptec anymore.
>
> And don't forget this follow up:
> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126775051500581&w=2
>
> As you people keep bringing Adaptec cards, I'm gonna update my story...
> B If you haven't read the above chapters in the story, you might. B I
> swear in it a few times. B I don't usually do that. B It's worth the read
> just for that. :)
>
> ok, when we last saw this story, Adaptec was working on new firmware
> which really would fix the problem. B Not too long after I wrote the
> second chapter in this saga, I got word from my ever-patient support guy
> that they got a new firmware for me, and if this doesn't do it, they are
> sending me new controllers (LSI), which they have switched to for all
> new machines they send out (forcing a rev of their application).
>
> The new firmware is installed, and finally..things are working.
>
>
> For a while.
>
>
> A couple months ago, one of the boxes hangs and quits working, somewhat
> like the very very first problem, but to be honest, that isn't my first
> guess. B I reboot the box, and call the service vendor and they look and
> sure enough, a couple hours later I get a call from the guy who has
> patiently worked with me on this stuff and he said, "It did it again."
> I can't believe this, but sure enough, the system logs show the
> controller tripping up and killing the system. again.
>
> So, they tell me, "That does it, you are getting the upgrade kit". B They
> send me out the deluxe edition, complete with new disks, array
> pre-created and preloaded with the new OS, as the old array won't be
> readable on the new array controller. B The kit is actually pretty
> decent, they have obviously spent a bit of time planning on having
> people field-upgrade these what were supposed to be "sealed" boxes, and
> changing cards in computers, of course, hasn't been an issue for
> me...well, ever.
>
> It's something of a pain, though, as we basically have to rebuild the
> box from scratch, and reconfigure it as the old system was (and hope we
> got everything right the first time...which we did by the time the third
> box was upgraded). B While we are upgrading the first one, though,
> another one died on us...leading us to think we've got an uptime-related
> issue.
>
> So at this point, I've got three of the boxes upgraded with new firmware
> (and a new version of the OS to go along with it). B The fourth box, I
> offered to test the NEXT new Craptec firmware on. B Curiously, the
> version number on the new firmware is SMALLER than the last "This is it"
> version. B Yes, you could feel my support contact rolling his eyes when
> he told me that.
>
> Do note that every step of the way, they are sending me new FIRMWARE,
> not new OS drivers. B They are having trouble working around the bugs in
> the hardware. B THE CARD IS CRAP. B THEY KNOW IT.
>
>
> Tell me again how wonderfully it is working on your FreeBSD system. B No,
> better idea, don't. B Save your breath. B All I will believe at this point
> is you haven't seen a problem...yet. B Maybe this card doesn't suck as
> bad as the ones we got in these four machines. B Maybe it just sucks
> differently.
>
>
> Nick.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM, S H <shbulkm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi misc,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for some feedback from people who might have tried using an
>>> Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 21610SA on OpenBSD. B I completely understand why
>>> Theo and the rest of the developers don't include the driver in the
GENERIC
>>> kernel since they were never given the documentation from Adaptec needed
to
>>> create the best driver possible.
>>>
>>> My file server currently runs FreeBSD 8.1 and has the adaptec card in it,
>>> thus far it's ran quite well but I would love to have that system running
>>> OpenBSD if I can. B So I'm hoping someone on misc has experience with
this
>>> card and might be able to offer some insight as to what I can expect in
>>> comparison to how it runs on FBSD...
>>>
>>> I also wanted to take this time to thank all of the other developers for
>> the
>>> upcoming release.
>>>
>>> Shawn

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