And if he were half the man Jim is I would consider his words.
________________________________ From: Janice <janice4just...@yahoo.com> To: "missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com" <missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 9:30:06 PM Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Bob Stevens Linda- I think he was talking about Fred - when described someone who never smiles Sent from my iPhone Janice Lee Parker On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Linda Herd <linda.h...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Jim, > >I loved what Bob said about Carl never smiling. Boy has he been bought. Carl >smiles every time he gets up to speak to them while they are busily concocting >something negative to reply to the irritating man who is trying to keep >spending >down for the people of this city. They pay no attention to the fact that John >is >receiving more money than the people of Springfield can pay. After all the >City >people do work for the City. They are like Congress voting themselves raises >when the want. I have known many City workers who will not do anything that >would look bad for the City. Why? Because they have very good jobs. And not >only >that they are told not to talk about what we see as problems at the expense of >their jobs. It might just be that they are all are making more than other >people >that have the same jobs. Just think how much more a custodian in the city >makes >than a custodian in the Springfield Public Schools. Some people really get >lucky. > >It seems that governments of this day and age tell the people one thing >while they are doing something else. > >About teaching. We taught as a service and honestly I never complained about >my >salary. Neither did Carl. We did what we did because we liked doing what we >did. >Still, why should a service to us pay the employees more money than people >with >Masters degrees. Nick has not done everything they wanted. I believe in Carl >and >he will do what he says he will do. I remember when Jerry told him he has >already gone over the real reasons that caused their pension to tank. He said, >"Mr Herd, you have already told us this. Your time is up." The City people >take >care of the City people. I understand how it works and that is what caused >this >group to serve the City without pay. > >Rita Scott told me that even if our people get elected that when elected >they would probably be so pressed to agree with the rest of council that they >will finally go along with the current group in office. The last Mayor would >jump on anyone very loudly in front of all the rest if everything didn't go >along with what he wanted. Look what happened to J.F.K.! and with the others >of >that time. This is still being studied. Have you seen the newest information >on >that. I have it in a folder (conspiracy). I still believe it was a conspiracy >of >our own government. I know you do not agree with me and I am O.K. with that. I >was young then and was really shocked when he was assassinated. Wish he were >in >at this time. > >Thanks for the good letter. Carl said he was thick skinned and could handle >it. >I would like to write him back but realized he will see this any way. I do not >think I have ever used this, but, LOL. > >Linda Herd > > > ________________________________ From: James Hornaday Jr. <rail...@sbcglobal.net> >To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:14:38 PM >Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Bob Stevens > > >All: > >oh, that is so true. The only arguments that were considered in Monday >night's >council meeting were: > >1) there are lots of poor on-the-edge people that need CU's services, and they >can't afford the first bit of an increase in rates, > > >on the other hand, > > 2) CU is a wonderful organization that somehow provides electricity, gas, >water, and sewer service for lesser prices than any utility in the midwest for >those who can pay their monthly bill, therefore whatever CU wants is totally >justified. > >The fact that CU never proved they really honest-to-god needed a rate increase >was totally ignored by the council and those that got up and spoke about the >unfairness of any rate increase. Council is duplicitous. Council members and >people with bitches about CU picked easily ignored reasons for their >complaints. >Council's bleeding hearts hoped that some undefined people and totally >undefined >organizations will be good Samaritans and take care of those unpaid bills. The >hot-head nay-sayers said John Twitty (the arrogant head honcho) needs to have >his salary halved. Small wonder the damn rate increase was passed by council. > >Fred Ellison's totally valid questions about the validity of any rate increase >were swept out the door before the meeting, without a single consideration, >and >were treated as though they never were brought up for consideration. > >People, we got problems here in River City, and it's not 8-ball pool. > >Jim Hornaday > > > > > > ________________________________ From: Eric Vought <evou...@gmail.com> >To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com >Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 11:57:17 AM >Subject: Re: [MoLiCo] Bob Stevens > > >On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:13 PM, Janice wrote: > >> Linda- >> If this is any indication of Stephens thoughts - I don't think he is on our >>side- but you all be the judge > >Of course, what Stevens says is true as far as it goes--- it does legitimately >cost money to run a utility and good people are worth paying money for. The >problem is that a municipal utility is a monopoly--- the price is not set by >competition and people don't have (much) choice about how they obtain their >utilities in the greater Springfield area. The flip-side of that is that the >utilities must expect intense scrutiny over what they spend and why. And >clearly >CU has not always spent money well. It is easy to blasé about expenditures >when >it is someone else's money. > >I would expect that, with prices going up across the board, CU's rates will >need >to go up at some point pretty much no matter what. But that means that the >baseline budget has to be as trim as possible to lessen the impact of >overall-market price shifts, CU's rates in turn affect the price of every >product and service made in the area (all two of them), so rate increases >ripple >throughout the local economy. > >Sincerely, > >Eric Vought >"Faith does not absolve us from trying to understand our world and make moral >distinctions with the eyes and brain given us. Religion is as much >responsibility as direction: Duty not Distinction." > >--This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no >responsibility >for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. If you do not like >what is being said here, filter it to trash, ignore it or leave. If you >leave, >learn how to do this for yourself. If you do not, you will be here forever. >-- >This is a Free Speech forum. The owner of this list assumes no responsibility >for the intellectual or emotional maturity of its members. 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