Hi,

if there exists any code (with MITK-compatible license) featuring 
multiple displays for longitudinal studies, I would appreciate to get it 
with MITK examples.

Best,
Urban


On 25.2.2014 10:24, Sascha Zelzer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 02/14/2014 02:50 PM, Urban Simoncic wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>>>    What actually
>>>> I can change when using MITK as application framework? Just the name,
>>>> selection of plugins used, help files, ...? Or I can easily do more
>>>> comprehensive changes in the application (e.g. change the GUI 
>>>> interface,
>>>> use more independent viewers, ...)?
>>> You can do quite a few things, it would help if you have a specific
>>> need for customization to better answer that question. Almost
>>> everything in the MITK workbench is contributed by plug-ins and can be
>>> switched on/off. You can provide your own viewers, etc. The
>>> architecture is very similar to the Eclipse Rich Client Plattform.
>> In the MITK I miss mostly an option to compare (concurrently display)
>> the images from longitudinal studies (i.e. images of the same subject,
>> taken at different time points). To do that, MITK would need to
>> optionally have more than one 'Display' components, each connected to a
>> single image. Actually, I am surprised that other users do not miss this
>> option, as longitudinal imaging studies are not an that exotic anymore.
>> Right now I would appreciate to hear your opinion whether this would be
>> hard to implement under MITK application framework, which will give me
>> an answer of what I have to learn and use once in the future.
>
> Traditionally, the feature development in the "MITK Workbench" 
> application has been and still is mostly driven by the requirements of 
> our department. While the platform itself allows for great 
> felxibility, the more advanced features in any end-user application 
> are often very problem specific. I agree that comparing longitudinal 
> studies is not exotic but it seems nobody in our department needed it 
> (badly) yet and the community did not contribute such a "display" (yet).
>
> However, I know of one or two groups doing something very similar. It 
> is probably not doable in one day, but with a good C++ and general 
> programming background, and with some pointers from the mailing list, 
> you should be able to draft something in a week or so. Maybe we can 
> get some example code any way.
>
>>
>> Another thing I still miss is image colorwash (to displey e.g. PET/CT).
>> However, this is under development, so I am mentioning it just because I
>> recently compared MITK and Slicer, and these (concurrent display of many
>> images and colorwash images) were two main things that Slicer have, bit
>> MITK do not have.
> AFAIK, this has been committed to the MITK master last week and will 
> be part of the next release (March).
>
>>   But MITK overall made better impression on me, so I
>> decided to first explore the MITK, with the hope that it will do all I
>> may want to do :-)
> I hope so :-)
>
> Best,
> Sascha
>
>>
>> Best,
>> Urban
>>
>>
>>> Best,
>>> Sascha
>>>
>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Urban
>>>>
>>>> On 13.2.2014 19:14, Sascha Zelzer wrote:
>>>>> Hi Urban,
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that when building the generated project, the project again
>>>>> downloaded and build MITK within its very own superbuild process.
>>>>> Unfortunately, the PluginGenerator creates a super-build structure
>>>>> which will download the current MITK master which contains some CMake
>>>>> changes which are not compatible with the CMake structure generate by
>>>>> the PluginGenerator from MITK 2013.12.
>>>>>
>>>>> My advise is to either set the MITK_DIR variable in your generated
>>>>> project to the MITK-build directory of your original MITK 2013.12
>>>>> build or modify the MYAPP/CMakeExternals/MITK.cmake file change
>>>>> "origin/master" to "origin/releases/2013.12" and re-run your projects
>>>>> superbuild.
>>>>>
>>>>> We will fix the PluginGenerator to create a superbuild system which
>>>>> downloads a suitable MITK version in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Sascha
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/13/2014 09:31 AM, Urban Simoncic wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now I want to build a MITK-based application that was generated by
>>>>>> PluginGenerator and I get an error when building the main 
>>>>>> application
>>>>>> called MYAPP:
>>>>>>     >..\..\..\..\MYAPP\Apps\MYAPP\MYAPP.cpp(21): fatal error C1083:
>>>>>> Cannot
>>>>>> open include file: 'QApplication': No such file or directory
>>>>>> [C:\MITK\mqd\MYAPP-build\Apps\MYAPP\MYAPP.vcxproj]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the compiler cannot find a path for the include file
>>>>>> <QApplication>
>>>>>> in MYAPP.cpp. Is there a way to specify that in CMake 
>>>>>> configuration or
>>>>>> there must be a problem in some CMakeLists.txt file? I used plugin
>>>>>> generator that was built inside my MITK 2013.12 build on Win 7 and
>>>>>> default CMake configuration. The variable QT_QMAKE_EXECUTABLE was 
>>>>>> set
>>>>>> properly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Urban
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23.1.2014 10:23, Sascha Zelzer wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we actually try hard to not depend on the user to select the 
>>>>>>> "right"
>>>>>>> set of CMake options. Missing required options are either
>>>>>>> automatically enabled or certain features in MITK are disabled if
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> options are set to OFF. That being said, I am aware that with 
>>>>>>> such an
>>>>>>> amount of possible options and external dependencies there is 
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> the possibility of bugs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In your case, you seem to be using an unsupported Doxygen version.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> CMake configuration step of MITK (not of the superbuild) should 
>>>>>>> warn
>>>>>>> you about that. Doxygen is used to generate the plug-in manuals and
>>>>>>> some versions other than 1.8.0 produce build errors (and some don't
>>>>>>> but produce garbage...).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Error FODC0002 in
>>>>>>> file:///C:/MITK/sb/MITK-build/Plugins/org.mitk.gui.qt.igttracking/documentation/UserManual/html/index.qhp,
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at line 29, column 14: Opening and ending tag mismatch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could either install Doxygen 1.8.0 or disable the documentation
>>>>>>> generation process by setting MITK_DOXYGEN_GENERATE_QCH_FILE to 
>>>>>>> OFF.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Sascha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/23/2014 02:16 AM, Urban Simoncic wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sorry for bothering again with the build error, but things are
>>>>>>>> still not
>>>>>>>> clear to me. I can build the MITK with the default CMake
>>>>>>>> settings. But
>>>>>>>> that is the only case when my compilation is successful; I played
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> some other CMake settings, but always get a compilation error.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> E.g. I selected MITK_BUILD_ALL_APPS, MITK_BUILD_ALL_PLUGINS and
>>>>>>>> MITK_BUILD_ALL_EXAMPLES, but I got an error early in the 
>>>>>>>> compilation
>>>>>>>> process. I somehow figured out that I may have to select also the
>>>>>>>> Boost
>>>>>>>> library and with that setting the compilation was "almost"
>>>>>>>> successful.
>>>>>>>> By "almost" successful compilation I mean that some 
>>>>>>>> applications are
>>>>>>>> compiled correctly and I can run them, but not the MITK
>>>>>>>> Workbench. The
>>>>>>>> compiler output is attached.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, is there an easy way to figure out which combination of CMake
>>>>>>>> flags
>>>>>>>> (and other CMake settings and external programs on the computer)
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> work? What else I have to set to ON if I select the
>>>>>>>> MITK_BUILD_ALL_APPS,
>>>>>>>> MITK_BUILD_ALL_PLUGINS and MITK_BUILD_ALL_EXAMPLES? In other 
>>>>>>>> words:
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> is wrong with the CMake setting that produced the attached 
>>>>>>>> erroneous
>>>>>>>> compiler output?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Urban
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 20.1.2014 18:19, Sascha Zelzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it usually means that there was a network connection problem and
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> tarball could not be retrieved correctly. In the
>>>>>>>>> MITK-superbuild.sln
>>>>>>>>> solution, try to rebuild the tinyxml project (tinyxml context
>>>>>>>>> menu ->
>>>>>>>>> project only -> rebuild).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> Sascha
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 01/20/2014 09:44 AM, Urban Simoncic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I used version 2013.12 and I added PATH from .bat files and MITK
>>>>>>>>>> Workbench works. My next step was to use the Plugin 
>>>>>>>>>> generator. The
>>>>>>>>>> Application builds OK and I am able to run it, but building 
>>>>>>>>>> of one
>>>>>>>>>> target fails. I think the problem must be in the output below
>>>>>>>>>> (part of
>>>>>>>>>> the compiler output). Does it mean that it is something wrong
>>>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>> downloaded library 'tinyxml'?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Urban
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2>  CustomBuild:
>>>>>>>>>> 2>    Building Custom Rule C:/MITK/sb/MITK/CMakeLists.txt
>>>>>>>>>> 2>    CMake does not need to re-run because
>>>>>>>>>> C:\MITK\sb\MITK-superbuild\CMakeFiles\generate.stamp is
>>>>>>>>>> up-to-date.
>>>>>>>>>> 2>    Creating directories for 'tinyxml'
>>>>>>>>>> 2>    Performing download step (download, verify and extract) 
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> 'tinyxml'
>>>>>>>>>> 2>    -- downloading...
>>>>>>>>>> 2> 
>>>>>>>>>> src='http://mitk.org/download/thirdparty/tinyxml_2_6_2.tar.gz'
>>>>>>>>>> 2>
>>>>>>>>>> dst='C:/MITK/sb/MITK-superbuild/tinyxml-cmake/src/tinyxml_2_6_2.tar.gz'
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2>         timeout='none'
>>>>>>>>>> 2>    CMake Error at
>>>>>>>>>> tinyxml-cmake/src/tinyxml-stamp/download-tinyxml.cmake:9 (file):
>>>>>>>>>> 2>      file DOWNLOAD HASH mismatch
>>>>>>>>>> 2>        for file:
>>>>>>>>>> [C:/MITK/sb/MITK-superbuild/tinyxml-cmake/src/tinyxml_2_6_2.tar.gz] 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2>          expected hash: [c1b864c96804a10526540c664ade67f0]
>>>>>>>>>> 2>            actual hash: [d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 19.1.2014 13:27, Sascha Zelzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Urban,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> just as a side note: The VTK library path issue Stefan 
>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>> applies to the current MITK master only. Unless you have good
>>>>>>>>>>> reasons
>>>>>>>>>>> to use the MITK master, you should be using the latest MITK
>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>> (which would be 2013.12). The batch files generated when
>>>>>>>>>>> configuring
>>>>>>>>>>> the 2013.12 sources are complete and should "just work".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Sascha
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2014 21:47, Urban Simoncic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for all the info on building process. Now I can run the
>>>>>>>>>>>> MITK
>>>>>>>>>>>> Workbench that I build myself and I should be ready to start
>>>>>>>>>>>> experimenting with the code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Urban
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18.1.2014 16:19, Kislinskiy, Stefan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are batch files in the build directory of MITK named
>>>>>>>>>>>>> StartVS_debug.bat and StartVS_release.bat which set up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paths
>>>>>>>>>>>>> either for debug or release mode. Currently they doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> include
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VTK path which will be fixed by the next VTK release. Until
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> must manually add the VTK path. Since every CMake run will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reset
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> batch files I recommend to copy the complete "PATH=..." line
>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate text file, replace "debug" or "release" by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "$(Configuration)" or "$(ConfigurationName)" in case of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VS2008, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy the modified line right into the project settings of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mitkWorkbench (Project Settings->Configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Properties->Debugging->Environment). Ensure that you selected
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>>> debug and release mode at the top of the dialog to apply the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings to all configurations. This way you don't need the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> batch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> files at all and can use the MITK solution file directly. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project settings are not overwritten by CMake. Don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forget to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the VTK path as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Urban Simoncic [[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Januar 2014 21:39
>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: Kislinskiy, Stefan; Zelzer, Sascha;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: AW: [mitk-users] Build error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for that advice. I have been able to build the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSVC 2010 Express and Windows SDK. After manually setting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Path
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some dll's, the MITK Workbench starts a command line 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> window and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something and then ends. I can't read what is going on there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MITK Workbench stop because not all shared libraries are in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Path? Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there any automated way to set the Path for all the shared
>>>>>>>>>>>>> libraries?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Urban
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17.1.2014 14:32, Kislinskiy, Stefan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As an addition I would like to say that we support MSVC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012 as well. However, to get things up and running with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSVC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need to patch and compile Qt manually. Personally I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommend MSVC 2010 which is more feature rich in its 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Express
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> edition than MSVC 2008. In any case, it you use an express
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> edition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you should always install the Windows SDK as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Sascha Zelzer [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Januar 2014 14:17
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: [email protected]; Kislinskiy, Stefan;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [mitk-users] Build error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Urban,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The documentation is up-to-date and VS2008 SP1 is supported.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, we are using the professional version and do not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regularly with the express edition (the documentation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please try to find the "mc.exe" executable on your system 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "message compiler"). Maybe the express edition does not ship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is probably included in some Windows SDK as an extra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do have it installed, you could help Poco find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mc.exe by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pointing CMAKE_MC_COMPILER within the Poco CMake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its path.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sascha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/17/2014 02:03 PM, Urban Simoncic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stefan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you for quick response. I have MSVC2008 with SP1 - 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached image to determine what I have. Can I use the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSVC? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed MSVC2008 just because the documentation claims
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSVC2008 SP1. If that is outdated, please let me know which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSVC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Qt shall I use (possibly MSVC Express edition that is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Urban
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17.1.2014 13:34, Kislinskiy, Stefan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Urban,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The CMake configuring of PocoFoundation fails:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4>CMake Error at Foundation/CMakeLists.txt:18 (message):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4>  message compiler not found: required to build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4>-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You might want to have a look at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poco-build/Foundation/CMakeLists.txt. There is a comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states VS2008+ is needed. Do you already installed the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pack for VS2008?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Urban Simoncic [[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Januar 2014 13:06
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: [mitk-users] Build error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to build the MITK for a few days, without much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because I don't know much about the MITK code, I have hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locate the error from the compiler output. So, I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output of the compiler, hoping that someone can tell me 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Urban
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS: I am working on Win 7 64 bit, using MSVC 2008 Express.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>


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