Hi -

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Jonathan Woithe wrote:

> times of high motion.  ffmpeg's DV codec is better (in that the effect is
> much reduced) but there are still issues.  The visibility of the problem does
> depend on the DVD player used: on some it's bearly visible, on others it's
> painfully obvious.

        That is really strange - I can easily believe there are issues with 
        the DV encoders (and that ffmpeg's is better) - but I can't seem to
        come up with a "how" that would cause a player dependent problem
        when viewing the final product.  Any ideas/theories about that?
        
> Note the libdv *decoder* is fine - the problem only affects the encoder.

        ffmpeg's is better - I might still have the notes (should be in the
        mailinglist archive from a few years ago) showing a marked average
        bitrate drop in the final .m2v file when switching to ffmpeg's DV 
        decoder.

> If this is the root cause of your problem then it's a libdv issue and has
> nothing at all to do with mjpegtools.

        My money is on the highbitrate on recordable media :-)

> My observations are that this libdv issue is unlikely to be addressed
> anytime soon since it seems the developers don't have the time to track the

        Indeed.  libdv hasn't seen much development in a couple years.

> yet), and encode straight to MPEG2 that way.  Going via an intermediate
> uncompressed yuv4mpeg2 file isn't an option unfortunately due to a lack of
> hard disc capacity.

        like this? :)

-rw-r--r--   1 sms  sms  153813254078 Sep  6 01:26 lald.mov

        8bit 4:2:2 uncompressed (the original 10bit 4:2:2 file is about 25%
        and is on another array that's spun down at the moment - the 
        filters, and initial processing was done in 10bit mode then a 8bit 
        version was exported for final processing and encoding).

        A 1TB array is (relatively) cheap these days - $850 for a 1394a (also
        has 1394a connectors).  Check out the LaCie products at
        http://www.lacie.com.

        Cheers,
        Steven Schultz



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