Ok, sooo....

Option 1):
H&R Cup kit: Inexpensive
Need all new bump stops. Mex is cheaper, thus preferred.

2) Bilsteins/H&R: $50 more than the Cup Kit
Front stops come as part of the Bilsteins
Rear stops need to be bought (Mex preferred)

3) Konis/H&R: Most expensive $120 more than the Cup kit
Need all new bump stops. Mex is cheaper, thus preferred.
Adj valving allows for a more controlled ride.

What I need no matter what:
New control Arms with new bushings.(they come with the arms.)
VR6 Strut Bearings.
How much are bump stops?

What else do I need since the car has 116k +.

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Williams, Chris (RSCH)" <[email protected]>
To: "'Holland J. Phillips'" <[email protected]>; "Steve Ingels"
<[email protected]>; "'Oleg M. Smirnov'" <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: New suspension time. What to get?


> Steve:
>
> As usual, Holland has given you the straight story.
>
> However, there's one mistatement, which is probably the result of his Koni
affiliation.
>
> Bilsteins-the front struts at least-have internal bump stops.  If you went
with them you would not need to replace/trim the OE units.  You would need
to replace the rears however.
>
> Next issue would be, which to buy: Mexican or German bump stops.  If I
recall correctly, the Mex units are cheaper than the Germans.  I went with
the latter when I re-did my suspension.
>
> Is your head spinning yet?
>
> HTH,
>
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Holland J. Phillips [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:38 AM
> To: Steve Ingels; Williams, Chris (RSCH); 'Oleg M. Smirnov';
[email protected]
> Subject: Re: New suspension time. What to get?
>
> Steve Ingels wrote:
>
> > So, maybe I'll just go with the H&R/Bilstein combo. I want a nice
height,
> > but I'm not an Autox'er. I'm more into straight line performance.
>
> Go with Koni's.  They are rebound adjustable, which will allow you to tune
> in more front rebound.  This will help keep the front tires loaded during
> hard launches.  Koni's are a little more expensive, but well worth it.
I've
> run Koni's on all my VW's, and love 'em.
>
> > New control arms (new bushings already installed.)
> > VR6 Strut bearings
>
> Good.
>
> > If I get the Cup Kit I have to get new bump stops (F&R)
>
> No, you just trim 1.5" off the existing ones.
>
> > If I get the Bilstein/H&R combo then those come with it.
>
> Nope.  Again, use the stock bumps, and trim 1.5" off their total height.
>
> > What about Trailing arm bushings and the like? This is all really new to
me.
>
> Unless your car has very high mileage (>100K), the rear bushings should be
> fine.  They aren't all that easy to replace, anyway.
>
> --Holland
> [email protected]
> a2_16V List Owner
> [email protected]
> San Jose, California
>
>
>
>
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