I'm interested in seeing that.

Steve
www.quickvws.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Randolph" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: 1.8T stuff(my project-for those interested)


> > From: "Jassem" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: OT:  1.8T stuff(my project-for those interested)
> >
> > I'm sorry but I just don't see the point of swapping a similar
displacement
> > engine simply because it's turbocharged. Since you'll be using Haltech
> > engine management, I'm willing to bet a properly built 16V will give the
> > same power & reliablity as a 1.8T.
>
> exactly.
>
> i dont think youre doing your homework if you can say that an 8vt or
> 16vt is any less reliable than a 20vt at that power level.  also (at
> that power level) i doubt you can make a "reliable" motor (depending on
> your definition of reliable) without changing engine internals anyway.
> yeah, the 20v is a turbo motor, but a turbo motor designed for 180hp.
> VW even decided that the 225hp version needed internal changes.
>
> if done properly and the same way, the reliability of any 4 cyl is
> pretty much the same, regardless of the number of valves it has.  the 8v
> might even have the most reliability, since it has the least amount of
> moving parts.
>
> > If I ever decide to go forced induction, I'd start with a VR6 and work
my
> > way up.
>
> it has its pros and cons.  i was considering a lowish boost system (no
> I/C in the beginning) for my C, and hoping for ~250 at the crank.  thats
> pretty good, especially since i was hoping to keep it well under $2000.
>
> somebody was telling me about two guys with A4 cars, one turbo, one vr6,
> and the vr6 was actually lighter.  i guess when you put all the turbo
> stuff on the vr6 though, it will be heavier again.
>
> > The only reason to swap a 1.8T is if will cost less than building a
> > reliable turbocharged 16V.
>
> i dunno what the prices are for 20v's these days.  other than that, its
> the same exact stuff youre doing to the 20v that you are to the 16v to
> get that power.  ive got a few pics somewhere of my buddies 85 16vt, if
> anyone is interested.  its still in the finishing stages, but its got a
> reringed block, rebuilt head, T3/T4, custom manifold, a pretty cool
> cusotm fuel rail, and SDS.  a big front I/C, passat T/B, quaife, etc.
> target is close to 300hp, i think on pump gas.
>
> ben
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