My car used to have a intermittent bad connection at the
differential pressure regulator if I recall correctly.  It would act
sluggish until I wiggled the connectors on the side of the air intake and
restarted the engine.  I think the ignition key off/on resets something in
the computer. The coolant temp sensor circuit also plays a role in the
air fuel ratio so I'd check those out.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Matthew Yip <[email protected]> wrote:

> I changed the knock box but have the same issues. I'm starting to think
> that it's a weak O2 sensor.
>
> Here's my logic which is probably flawed.
>
> The O2 sensor has a heater - when I start the car from cold, it fires up
> easily due to the cold-start valve. Perhaps 30 seconds after cold-start, the
> engine stumbles and is very sluggish to respond to the throttle. It remains
> sluggish until the engine temp warms up which keeps in thinking that the O2
> sensor is bad.
>
> The problem is worse when it rains which points to a bad ground as well but
> I'm at a loss about where to find that issue.
>
> Aarrgggghhh!!!  Maybe I should knuckle under and buy a car built in this
> century.
>
> - Matthew -
>
> On Oct 1, 2010, at 21:16, Denis Goldman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Matt,
> >
> > I had that same intermittent power-loss/limp-home/acts-as-no-o2-sensor is
> > connected gremlin at one point - turned out, after months of trial and
> > error, swapping parts one at a time, to be the knock box under the
> passenger
> > side of the windshield (this was a CIS-E 1.8 16v, I think motronic has
> the
> > 02/Knock CPU as part of the main CPU on the driver's side).
> >
> > The key cycle you mentioned was the same for me....unlike a torn air
> boot,
> > the problem often went away with a quick flip of the ignition.
> >
> > Swap it out with a good one if you have access to someone with an
> extra...
> >
> > Of course, if you have motronic, then disregard what I said above.  :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Denis
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Matthew Yip <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> ITA allows for a final-drive change but it's verbotten to "mix and
> match"
> >> the
> >> internals.  I run a 4.25 which, according to Shine, is the wrong final
> >> drive -
> >> wrong for his application but fine for me.
> >>
> >>
> >> I've considered a newer car and the myriad of benefits.  The issue is
> that
> >> I'm
> >> flush with antique VW bits - most of which are worthless to anyone who
> >> isn't an
> >> "enthusiast".  That having been said, I'd love to get into an E30 BMW
> >> (newer but
> >> not so new that it's fully computer controlled) or an Integra (new
> enough
> >> to be
> >> tunable).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My street 16v GTi seems to have a black cloud hovering over it - I've
> >> touched
> >> virtually EVERYTHING and yet it spites me.  It starts and runs GREAT
> until
> >> it
> >> drops into some sort of low-power mode, sputtering and stumbling.  All I
> >> have to
> >> do is cycle the key and it goes away BUT I have no idea where to start.
>  It
> >> drops into that mode for no apparent reason and all temperatures
> although
> >> it's
> >> more "sensitive" when it's cool and wet.  AAARRRGGGHHH!!!  Give me
> >> something
> >> broken - I abhor these intermittent problems.
> >>
> >> Matthew
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Les Noriel <[email protected]>
> >>> To: Volkswagen a2 16v discussion list <[email protected]>;
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 11:21:39 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [a2-16v-list] General Li Update
> >>>
> >>> Matthew,
> >>> Does ITA allow for any gearing changes or do they have to remain
>  stock?
> >>>
> >>> Over revving the motor--Many of the newer cars once again have  engine
> >>> management limitations that prevent that from occurring on newer
> engines.
> >>> Again, another advantage to newer cars.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regarding older cars, Rafi  Kazanjian of Eurosport campaigns a MK1 here
> >> on the
> >>> West Coast. The car is almost  entirely stock. The balance and
> lightweight
> >> of
> >>> the car (Along with his driving  skills) makes him competitive against
> >> many of
> >>> the newer cars.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I had a  similar electrical experience on the road with my MKI many
> years
> >> ago.
> >>> It did not  matter what I did, the wire would dislodge from the
> >> alternatior. I
> >>> replaced the  cable, used zip ties, etc. I even created a small metal
> >> bracket
> >>> and screwed it  down to prevent the cable from coming off. That was to
> no
> >> avail
> >>> as the metal  bracket broke one day while driving away from a stop
> light.
> >> That
> >>> car was cursed  and refused to be fixed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Good luck this season.
> >>> -----Original  Message-----
> >>>> From: Matthew Yip <[email protected]>
> >>>> Sent: Oct 1, 2010  6:46 AM
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject:  [a2-16v-list] General Li Update
> >>>>
> >>>> It's been several years since  I've written any updates. I'm
> astonished
> >> that
> >>>> y'all find my drivel  interesting. Be honest - many of you have kids
> now
> >> and
> >>> need
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> something to read that will drone the kiddies to sleep.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Nothing too spectacular has happened in the past  3-4 years of racing.
> >> The car
> >>> is
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> becoming less competitive bc of  new cars being classed into ITA. I'm
> >> not
> >>> pleased
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> but understand  that we can't stand in the way of progress. What I am
> >> seeing
> >>> that
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> annoys me is that the EFI cars are getting all the breaks while  the
> old
> >> junk
> >>
> >>>> like the CIS-E or carbureted cars are getting left behind.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> After 6, yes SIX, seasons, I finally replaced the  otherwise stock
> >> engine 3
> >>> years
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ago. The "race" motor is now a  .020 overviews 1.8l 16v with porting
> as
> >>> allowed
> >>>
> >>>> in IT - 1" in from the  outside edge of the head. Otherwise everything
> >> else is
> >>>
> >>>> OE, just fresh  and new.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The results of the fresh engine  amazing. All that time spent trying
> to
> >> eke
> >>> out
> >>>
> >>>> momentum paid off. The  engine was worth a good second PLUS it as
> great
> >> to
> >>> final
> >>>
> >>>> motor past  other cars on the straights.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2 years ago, I finally  ditched my ancient Koni single adjustable for
> >> some
> >>>> Bilstein Race shocks.  Again, what a HUGE difference. The car actually
> >> stuck
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>> I found myself  gaining in otherwise faster cars in the twisties.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The  past years have had a few "moments" as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> The last race of  2007, a car spun on the first lap in T9. I spun to
> >> avoid or
> >>> I'd
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> have shortened his car by several feet. I took out the tyre wall  with
> >> the LF
> >>> but
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> the car was unfazed. Unfortunately, going down  the front straight, I
> >> saw a
> >>> flash
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> of orange which told me that  the hood pin had come loose. Worse,
> >> entering T3,
> >>>
> >>>> the car go loose on me,  I jumped the inside kerbing, giving the car
> >> behind
> >>> me,
> >>>
> >>>> the SAME that  that I'd spun to avoid, a great view of the underside
> of
> >> the
> >>>> General Li  as I balanced the car on the RR tyre.  I slid to a stop in
> a
> >> cloud
> >>> of
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> dust, heard squealing tyres and WHAM - Earl's 240 pummeled the
>  driver's
> >> side
> >>> of
> >>>
> >>>> my car, side-to-side.  I restarted my car and left  the scene in a
> hurry
> >> to
> >>> avoid
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> having other cars find me in the  fog.  Ducking into the pits, I
> >> frantically
> >>>> motioned to some friends  (I still don't normally travel with crew) to
> >> take a
> >>
> >>>> look at the hood -  they gave me a "Come back in 2 laps" signal.  2
> laps
> >>> later, I
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> returned and they graciously taped my hood shut and I  returned to the
> >> melee.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The final outcome wasn't pretty but  it wasn't hopeless either.  The
> >> drivers'
> >>
> >>>> side of the car was beat  up and the rocker panel was bent at the
> >> trailing
> >>> edge
> >>>
> >>>> of the door BUT  the car was still running without any pulling,
> rubbing
> >> or
> >>> fluid
> >>>
> >>>> leaks.  Earl's 240 went back to the paddock b/c of a bent tie rod -
> >> Germany
> >>> 2,
> >>>
> >>>> Japan 0.
> >>>>
> >>>> Over the winter, I replaced the  fender and Auto Expectations (owned
> by
> >> the
> >>>> former owners of Datsun  Dynamics) pulled the major dents in the LR
> >> quarter
> >>>> panel.  I  retained the door and the dents in the rocker panel for
> >> asthetics.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> For the first race of 2008, we raced in a misty  pseudo-rain.  A few
> >> laps into
> >>>
> >>>> the race, I was running with Doug's  MR2 and eating up the track.  In
> T7
> >> on
> >>>> Summit Point, Doug started a  rather lurid spin - anticipating that
> he'd
> >> spin
> >>> off
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> to driver's  right, I hit the grass on driver's left.  Nope - wrong
> idea
> >> -
> >>> Doug's
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> car instead came back to driver's left and found the RF of my  car.  I
> >> tagged
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> RR of his MR2, spinning both of us  surprisingly quickly.  Per usual,
> I
> >> drove
> >>
> >>>> away, bouncing off the  rev limiter in the grass.  Doug got the short
> >> end of
> >>> that
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> contact with about 6 degrees of toe-out in the RR - Germany 3,  Japan
> 0.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The rest of 2008 went well with  some oddities starting show up as the
> >> car
> >>> ages.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In particular was an infuriating miss during  hard right turns - this
> is
> >>>> indicative of fuel starvation so I started  adding more and more fuel
> to
> >> the
> >>>> car.  The problem persisted and I  started wondering if something in
> the
> >> fuel
> >>
> >>>> system was starting to fail -  I HATE intermittent problems with a
> >> passion.
> >>> Then
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Brian,  my crew and now fellow competitor (or maybe it was Bob, one of
> >> my
> >>> other
> >>>
> >>>> crew and Brian's Dad) who noticed that the main electrical connection
> to
> >> the
> >>
> >>>> alternator was broken.  The tab was completely broken away BUT
>  because
> >> of
> >>>> metal-memory, it touched the connector.  However, under  hard right
> >> turns, the
> >>>
> >>>> connector was "pulled" away from the alternator -  since the voltage
> was
> >>> marginal
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> (thought the alternator was just  junk), the car WAS cutting out in
> hard
> >> right
> >>>
> >>>> turns but it was  electrical, NOT fuel.  Ugh - problem solved although
> >> we
> >>>> encountered  the same problem in 2009.  At least we'd seen it before
> and
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >>>> whom we all refer to as the Mad Scientist (Think Dexter of Dexter's
> >>> Laboratory)
> >>>
> >>>> was prepared with a full electrical kit including lugs  specifically
> >> sized for
> >>>
> >>>> the alternator.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> As  a whole, 2008 was an exercise in frustration - the car is just as
> >> fast as
> >>> it
> >>>
> >>>> was in the past 1:31-1:30 on Summit Point Main but the new cars are
> >> getting
> >>>> significantly faster.  The lap record on SP Main is now in  the 1:26
> >> range
> >>> (might
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> even be in the 1.25s - I try to put that  out of my mind or I'm just
> >>> depressed).
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Starts are still my  favorites, especially charging down the middle,
> >> scaring
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>> daylights  out of the smaller cars.  At the end of 2008, Ryan, my
> other
> >> crew
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>> soon-to-be Brian's brother-in-law, thanked me for not making him do
> >> bodywork
> >>
> >>>> over the winter - that's gratitude for  you...<G>
> >>>>
> >>>> In Fall 2008, Brian, my crew member, decided to  go racing and I
> offered
> >> him
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>> General Li for School.  He took to  the car like a duck to water which
> >> was bad
> >>>
> >>>> for me.  Actually it was  amusing to watch the car going around the
> >> track
> >>> without
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> me  driving.  Some of my fellow competitors mentioned that the car
> >> looked fast
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>>> probably b/c it was at least 50 lbs lighter without me driving.   I
> >> reminded
> >>> all
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> of them that my bumpers are both big and  strong.  During the race and
> >> the end
> >>> of
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Driver's School,  Brian and Jesse, son of one of my ITA competitors,
> >> were
> >>> running
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> inches apart.  As they came thru T10, we only saw the  General Li -
> poor
> >> Todd,
> >>>
> >>>> Jesse's Dad exclaimed "Oh, no - Jesse must have  gone off".  About the
> >> same
> >>> time
> >>>
> >>>> that he said that, Jesse popped out  from behind the General Li and
> >> suddenly,
> >>
> >>>> there were 2 cars...very, very  cool.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2009 was another exercise in frustration - Brian's  car wasn't
> completed
> >> so we
> >>>
> >>>> shared the General Li during the  season.  At the first race, we had
> >> shifter
> >>>> problems and ended up  changing the clutch.  That wasn't the problem
> and
> >> at
> >>> VIR,
> >>>
> >>>> the  issues just got worse as the trans had no interest in finding
> >> gears.
> >>> This
> >>>
> >>>> made for interesting racing since gear changes had to be very slow and
> >>>> deliberate.  This relegated me towards the back of the pack and  made
> >> racing
> >>> more
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> of a chore than a fun competition.  When  we (actually just me)
> returned
> >> from
> >>
> >>>> VIR, we (this time ALL of us) pulled  the trans and sent it to a buddy
> >> who is
> >>> a
> >>>
> >>>> VW Master Tech and a transaxle  guru.  The verdict was that the 1-2
> >> slide had
> >>
> >>>> worn along with a  clutch disc that delaminated - something about an
> >> over-rev
> >>> on
> >>>
> >>>> downshift  - couldn't have been me <G>.
> >>>>
> >>>> Once the trans was  fixed, the light at the end of the tunnel started
> >> getting
> >>
> >>>> brighter  although racing a now "vintage" VW has many challenges.
> >> During one
> >>
> >>>> race, whilst racing with a pack of cars, the car just shut off - the
> >> coil
> >>> wire
> >>>
> >>>> popped off - something that happened many years ago so we  zip-tied
> the
> >> wire
> >>> in
> >>>
> >>>> place - apparently that wasn't enough.   Scratch one DNF into the
> books.
> >>>>
> >>>> Updates for 2010 to follow  shortly.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Matthew -
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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