Congratulations!  Persistence always pays off in the end. I think most of
the smog guys these days are so used to the OBD2 cars, that when someone
shows up with an older vehicle like yours, it's just a thorn in their
shorts that they don't want to deal with, so they treat you like crap so
you'll just go away.

~Holland
On Apr 25, 2016 09:21, "damac2004" <damac2...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> looks like i forgot to update my thread.  i ended up leaving the second
> knock sensor hooked up to the engine which was between cylinder 2 and 3.
>  never detected any pinging on this car.  drove the hell out of it, it
> seems happy at current timing and isn't hesitating when i stomp on the
> pedal.  car is definately slower without those mods, i thought they were bs.
>
> i went to the 4th smog shop that also did repairs and pleaded for help to
> find out why these other shops were jerks to me and kept telling me about
> the check engine light.
>
> this guy was nice, listened to what i had to say and took my smog test out
> to his tech.  he said the light and egr stuff was seperate, that i had a
> federal emissions car and the light wasn't applicable but he saw other cars
> from this generation that needed a light and thought it was interesting.
>  he smogged me on the spot and i passed!
>
> i don't think this bigger repair shop did me any favors?  but i'm glad to
> finally have it done.  nobody could really answer why some shops said this
> car needed a light.  one shop saw my fail and freaked on me saying i needed
> a light blindly and wouldn't even look it up.  moral of the story is find a
> good shop when it comes to any kind of service.  you can't believe these
> guys at face value.
>
> thanks for all the help!!!
>
> i know i was freaking out since it was just me working on all this stuff.
>  i really hate these gassers and can't wait to get to my mtdi conversions,
> never will buy an old gasser again!
>
>
> On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 9:49:28 PM UTC-7, hollandphillips wrote:
>>
>> It may not see any codes until you put some miles on it. If the block has
>> 2 knock sensors, it's a 9A block. The Motronic ECU wants to see both
>> sensors. The previous owner has left you a real mess. As I said before, I
>> would just find a test station that offers free retests and go for it. You
>> really don't have any other options at this point. The reduced power and
>> smoother idle is probably due to the stock cams.
>>
>> ~Holland
>> On Apr 8, 2016 20:31, "damac2004" <dama...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> anybody know how long it should take to throw a code?  i just warmed the
>> car up one cycle on the driveway and it didn't throw any codes after, i'm
>> guessing i have to go take it on a nasty drive?
>>
>> i am close to taking it in for smog.  i had to go back and trace wires,
>> etc. and fix previous owner crap.  i was worried about the moving timing
>> light so i got another distributor, cap, rotor and wires with the #4 sensor
>> that i didn't have, and the car still wanders with the light making it hard
>> for me to get exact :(  i tried to leave it in a happy spot based on sound.
>>
>> it turns out i have 2 knock sensors attached to the block.  #1 inbetween
>> 1 and 2 cylinders.  then #2 between 2 and 3!!!  i'm guessing this is
>> incorrect no matter the engine and either it gets one over on the left
>> side, or a second one to the right of the breather?  this is probably going
>> to confused the car if i leave it as is?
>>
>> they had #2 sensor hooked up correctly to the harness.  but they hooked
>> #1 up to the ignition reference sensor from #4 spark plug, and they cut the
>> harness side of #1 knock sensor.  that damn car really did run great to me,
>> it was faster then than it is now, just a
>>
>> ...
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