Gerd,

I couldn't go to sleep without getting to the ground of this...

I performed the following tests on linux, always with my standard --no-trim present:

 * original osm.pbf file downloaded from geofabrik (with the
   problematic bounds tag in it)
   -> FAILURE
 * converted with the help of osmconvert to normal osm format
   -> FAILURE (which was to be expected, same file, just different format)
 * deleted the osm tag with a simple command like 'cat file.osm | grep
   -v bounds > file-nobounds.osm' and ran splitter against it, always
   with the same options
   -> SUCCESS

This leads me to the question why the bounds tag is read/used if it also works without and even gives less problem ?


.... sorry for bombarding you (and the list), but I think it's nevertheless and interesting question.


Cheers
Patrik


On 24.03.2016 23:51, KeenOnKites wrote:
Gerd,

I did dig a bit deeper... also as it rang a bell:
we had quite a similar problem with the wrong bounding box in Alaska already October 2014. It was an illegal value of maxlon="180.0005" causing splitter to bail out

When I convert the osm.pbf file with the help of osmconvert to osm and look at the first few lines I see a 'bounds' tag announcing the problematic bounding box (not illegal as in 2014, but still 'suboptimal'):

    <?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
    <osm version="0.6" generator="osmconvert 0.8.2"
    timestamp="2016-03-23T20:13:02Z">
            <bounds minlat="49.8089" minlon="-179.9532"
    maxlat="73.79794" maxlon="179.9999"/>
            <node id="27207079" lat="64.7487541" lon="-147.3242821"
    version="2"
    ...


Getting the statistics via osmconvert with --out-statistics seems to read through the file and checks the 'real' bounding box:

    ...
    lon min: -180.0000000
    lon max: -122.5122525
    lat min: 48.6234931
    lat max: 71.6061501
    ...


I'm now wondering if splitter get's confused by the existing but obviously strange bounds tag.

According to the findings in 2014 splitter can handle files without the bounds tag and just gets the real boundings from all the elements in the file. I did not test to run it through splitter without the bounds tag as I'm having troubles converting the file properly on my windows... but I'll try that probably tomorrow again on linux (sort of late already today).
The process would be

    osm.pbf -> osm -> get rid of the bounds tag -> back to osm.pbf
    again (to have same source file format)
    .... and then run the splitter and see what happens.

But if I have a proper osm file with the 'problematic' bounds tag in it, I can also try to reproduce the problem with the osm file. If it is reproducible I just drop the tag and try it again.

BTW: I've contacted geofabrik already via email

Patrik


On 24.03.2016 22:27, KeenOnKites wrote:
Gerd,

I'll play a bit more with this option and check what suits me best.

Again thanks for the incredibly quick answer to my problem/question.

Cheers
Patrik

On 24.03.2016 22:20, Gerd Petermann wrote:

Hi Patrik,


I think the wanted effect of the no-trim option is a rectangular map,

which some people prefer, esp. on the PC.


Gerd


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*Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] Problem with splitter: Failed to find a correct split
Gerd,

Sorry, your explanations came in during I was writing up the test results ...

Think it's all clear so far.

As we're creating lot of different maps I'm just wondering if I can/should drop the option --no-trim for all map building or if I would suddenly run into other/new problems...

I'll contact geofabrik with the details.

Many thanks and happy Easter.
Patrik

On 24.03.2016 22:07, Gerd Petermann wrote:

Hi Patrik,


I don't need the files, I downloaded the alaska file and tried some variants.

See also my last post, send a few minutes ago.


Gerd



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*Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] Problem with splitter: Failed to find a correct split
Gerd,

Yes, alaska.osm.pbf is small.

It works without --no-trim. And it also works with the polygon file that belongs to alaska.osm.pbf (also downloaded from Geofabrik) which, according to documentation, anyway would disable --no-trim option.

Do you still need the resulting densities-out of the failure ? It's about 700 kb... if yes, how should I provide it ? Just attach it here ?

You have to excuse my question, I'm not the crack: is this now a problem of the pbf file, or the splitter ? ... or just the way I try to use it ?

Thanks already now for your help.
Patrik

On 24.03.2016 21:14, Gerd Petermann wrote:


Ahh, sorry, I just noticed that the file alaska.osm.pbf is small.

The problem is here is that the bounding box spans from -180 to 180,

but this box is most empty. I have to run splitter now to find the details.

It works without --no-trim, probably also with an appropriate polygon file.

Does that help?


Gerd

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*Betreff:* Re: [mkgmap-dev] Problem with splitter: Failed to find a correct split

Hi Patrik,


please provide the complete log from splitter and the densities-out.txt

Gerd

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*Betreff:* [mkgmap-dev] Problem with splitter: Failed to find a correct split
Hello together,

I'm running into a problem with the splitter (r435 aswell as r427) when splitting the US_ALASKA file downloadable from Geofabrik.

The exception is:

    Warning: No solution found for partition
    (49.7900390625,-179.9560546875) to (73.828125,180.0) with
    6'702'717 nodes
    uk.me.parabola.splitter.SplitFailedException: Failed to find a
    correct split
            at
    
uk.me.parabola.splitter.SplittableDensityArea.split(SplittableDensityArea.java:152)
            at
    
uk.me.parabola.splitter.SplittableDensityArea.split(SplittableDensityArea.java:196)
            at
    uk.me.parabola.splitter.Main.calculateAreas(Main.java:645)
            at uk.me.parabola.splitter.Main.split(Main.java:258)
            at uk.me.parabola.splitter.Main.start(Main.java:187)
            at uk.me.parabola.splitter.Main.main(Main.java:157)


The complete command line with the splitter call is:

    java -Xmx1536M -jar
    
D:/fzk/develop/fzk-mde-garmin/Freizeitkarte-Entwicklung/tools/splitter/splitter.jar
    --max-threads=2
    
--geonames-file=D:/fzk/develop/fzk-mde-garmin/Freizeitkarte-Entwicklung/cities/c
    ities15000.zip --no-trim
    --precomp-sea=D:/fzk/develop/fzk-mde-garmin/Freizeitkarte-Entwicklung/sea
    --keep-complete=true --mapid=98200001 --max-nodes=800000
    --output=xml --output-dir=D:/fzk/develop/fzk
    -mde-garmin/Freizeitkarte-Entwicklung/work/Freizeitkarte_US_ALASKA
    
D:/fzk/develop/fzk-mde-garmin/Freizeitkarte-Entwicklung/work/Freizeitkarte_US_ALASKA/Freizeitkarte_US_ALASKA.osm.pbf


The pbf source file comes from:

    http://download.geofabrik.de/north-america/us/alaska-latest.osm.pbf


The osmconvert statistics about that file is:

    PS Freizeitkarte-Entwicklung>
    .\tools\osmconvert\windows\osmconvert.exe
    .\work\Freizeitkarte_US_ALASKA\Freizeitkarte_US_ALASKA.osm.pbf
    --out-statistics
    timestamp min: 2007-06-05T03:23:59Z
    timestamp max: 2016-03-23T05:41:43Z
    lon min: -180.0000000
    lon max: -122.5122525
    lat min: 48.6234931
    lat max: 71.6061501
    nodes: 4360214
    ways: 185550
    relations: 2245
    node id min: 27207079
    node id max: 4072166815
    way id min: 4708608
    way id max: 404980503
    relation id min: 13971
    relation id max: 6033189
    keyval pairs max: 310
    keyval pairs max object: relation 60189
    noderefs max: 2000
    noderefs max object: way 42394334
    relrefs max: 681
    relrefs max object: relation 3337277
    PS Freizeitkarte-Entwicklung>

Interesting to mention:
- splitter exception mentiones a complete different coverage area than osmconvert statistics.
- the area is near -180 / +180... always complicated.

Do I miss something ? All other pbf's I've tried are splitting properly without any problems. Do I need to change something in the arguments ? Or is it a simple problem of the actual pbf file ?

Any ideas are very welcome....

Cheers
Patrik





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