Hi lig fietser, yes, I forgot to point out the possible improvements for address search. Reg. commuting cyclists: I worked in Munich and for some years I commuted ~10 km between east and west. At that time I did not have a Garmin but I always prefered ways apart from major roads. What problem do you see here?
Gerd Gerd ________________________________________ Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-boun...@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von lig fietser <ligfiet...@hotmail.com> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. März 2017 09:20:11 An: Development list for mkgmap; daveswarth...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Parallel major roads to cycleways Interesting idea Gerd but those roads are also arterial connections to get in or out of the city so for commuting cyclists essential. A benefit to have such hook is that I can copy the name of the major highway to the parallel cycleway if it lacks a name. This is for address search essential, since the major highway is often not routable in my maps. Another benefit could be that I can force the router to route on those parallel and often obligatory cycleways and give a high penalty (lesser road_speed or road_class) for the major highway sections. In OSM those highways often lacks a tag bicycle=no or bicycle=use_sidepath where in reality the parallel cycleways are obligatory. ________________________________ Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-boun...@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> namens Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com> Verzonden: donderdag 16 maart 2017 03:40:10 Aan: Development list for mkgmap Onderwerp: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Parallel major roads to cycleways There is a fledgling effort underway here in Chiang Mai to do a similar thing. This effort centers around the desirability of a route for bicycling. It deals with scenic vs dangerous roads for cycling and the 3 point system it uses might be insufficient for your needs but it might be adapted. Worth a look at any rate. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Thailand#Bicycling_tagging_.28currently_for_Chiang_Mai_only.29 Dave On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Gerd Petermann <gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com<mailto:gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hi, I just want to share an idea which might be interesting for cycling maps: In Germany and probably also Austria) many major roads have a parallel cycleway close to it, often only separated by a patch of grass or natural=tree_row. Example: A way with bicycle=designated : http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/243499929 runs next to highway=primary B213 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/328470949 I think nearly no cyclist likes to use those ways -- they are just a bit safer but still lots of cars are running with 100 km/h next to you -- so I think it would be good to have a way to separate them from other ways where no major road is close. A possible way would be this: Simiar to the new ResidentialHook which sets the mkgmap:residential tag we might implement a hook which collects major roads and calculates an area around it (maybe 20m on both sides). Each way (maybe only those with highway=* ) could be checked against those areas in a way that a rule could decide to "dislike" a way which is mostly within such an area when the map is for cyclists. I guess bridges and tunnels (or more generally the layer tag) needs special handling here. Questions: 1) Do you think this would good to have? 2) If yes, what kind of information would be needed in the style? Gerd _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev
