Hi Gerd

Sorry about the delay, I'm away at the moment without access to the sources and other tools, but:

The same pointer size (1-3 bytes) is used by Mdr5 and Mdr25. I can't remember if this is determined by the actual number of Mdr5 entries or can be set explicitly. If Mdr25 is permitted, by less deduping, to be bigger than Mdr5, then this setting needs to be investigated.

To see what happens when Mdr25 uses exact name dedupe and Mdr5 uses TERTIARY collator, the best way I can think of is to remove some characters from the sort/code-page such that Mdr5 will consider some cities to be identical in Mdr5, then see what effect this has on Find>Address.

With Mdr, I can well understand unwillingness to change anything when it seems to be working. My attempts to switch to SECONDARY collator, which I think is what has to happen eventually, had confusing results

Ticker


On 07/11/2021 09:16, Gerd Petermann wrote:
Hi Ticker,

  there is no logical change in behaviour to Mdr5 with this patch.
yes, I already wrote it's only refactoring.
I still try to find some "real OSM" input where the changes to the other files 
show any difference in the mdr file.

I found this very old svn log entry by Steve: 
https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/websvn/revision.php?repname=mkgmap&rev=3093
which says that "All cases where sorted names are compared with equals() need to be 
changed to use Collator.compare() with the SrtCollator from Sort."

So, I really wonder why he didn't change all  sources accordingly. Maybe it was 
only about cities, maybe not.
I see only one way to find out: Have an input that has shows differences in the 
index and find out which version gives better results in the search in 
MapSource or - if testing is possible - on a device.

Gerd

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Hi Gerd

I don't know if Mdr5 was correct before, but, for European names at
least, I presume it has been used quite a lot and no complaints.

If the default strength for a Collator is TERTIARY, there is no logical
change in behaviour to Mdr5 with this patch.

Ticker

On Sat, 2021-11-06 at 14:33 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
H Ticker,

but how do you know that the code in Mdr5 is right (with or without
the patch)?

Gerd

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Hi Gerd

I just hate the idea it is obviously wrong and trivially to make
correct. It is unlikely it will ever fail. While it is in this
inconsistent state it inhibits any addressing of the more complicated
issue about how to tackle the case-differences in city names and what
MdrCheck is reporting.

Ticker

On Sat, 2021-11-06 at 14:10 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
Hi Ticker,

ok, so let's wait for that crash to get an example. I really have
no
idea how to force it :(
According to MdrCheck the index is full of errors for the two tiles
in China, but maybe it's MdrCheck which is wrong.

Gerd

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Hi Gerd

The crash in Carlos's original problem is due to the inconsistency
in
the dedups between Mdr5/Mdr25.

This could be triggered with any --code-page where city names
contain
characters that exist in this character-set but are not given sort
positions.

My mistake with mdrUnicode_v1/2.patch was trying to tackle the case
problem at the same time. This is going to be much more difficult.

Ticker


On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 11:00 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
Hi Ticker,

sorry for my reluctance. I simply have no test case that shows an
error (search for xyz not working). If you have one please share
it
so that I can understand the importance of the patch.

I would also be happy if you could create a new branch to test
further changes reg. --lower-case.
According to MdrCheck we also produce wrong data for mdr 27
(cities
are not de-duped).
Found this also with Arndts *.img data but did not yet try to
find
out if MdrCheck is right.

Gerd

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Hi Gerd

I really don't like the idea of the consistent dedup part of this
patch
not being applied (Mdr5 & Mdr25).
The Mdr7 changes are a slight refactor and a useful comment, but
has
no
logical effect.
The Mdr29 changes are an assert to detect inconsistency in
Mdr5/25
index pointer lengths before these could cause a crash +
.equal()/collator.compare() change that could be removed

Ticker

On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 09:02 +0000, svn commit wrote:
Version mkgmap-r4811 was committed by gerd on Fri, 05 Nov 2021

fix java.lang.AssertionError while building index from unicode
tiles
Changes extracted from mdrUnicode_v8.patch by Ticker Berkin

http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/websvn/revision.php?repname=mkgmap&rev=4811
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